War on Tython: Locked Within OOC

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@Wit Furthermore it's far too late by now I assume but your carbine isn't even on your character profile so you shouldn't even have it in this fight but alas
 

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@Wit Fennex also writes that he moves forward and crouches and that you are wearing a helmet (which you aren't as your armor specifies that it is optional and you never stated in your original post that you have it so it's not there)

That's not how that works at all.

Section V, Subsection A.2: While players may state their equipment in the opening posts of a thread to account for changes or additions to what's on a profile, the character profile is the main point of reference for what the character may use in combat. This means a player may utilize anything posted on their character profile in a thread within reason (no abruptly pulling out vehicles or personal ships).

The armor in his profile clearly lists a helmet, and nowhere along the line did he say he was not wearing it, nor has anything been said or done that would indicate he's not wearing it. And if you want to get technical, all pieces of an armor are optional. If we required people to list exactly which pieces of an armor submission they were wearing every time they entered a pvp, we wouldn't need armor profiles at all. But we dont, and we do. Armor profiles are used as is unless changes are stated in the thread.

Edit to address above: the carbine is not advanced and was clearly listed in Letos opening post. It is entirely within the rules for him to bring it along, per the section I just quoted.
 

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@Loco "
  • Head: Front and back of the head and neck. (When accompanying helmet is used)
When implies that it is not a standard part of the helmet surely?
 

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@Loco "
  • Head: Front and back of the head and neck. (When accompanying helmet is used)
When implies that it is not a standard part of the helmet surely?

I think it implies that the helmet doesn't provide protection if you're not wearing it.
 
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@Wit Yes I used the original force grip but the body twist is still written in the post and being ignored.
You explicitly mention "by using the previously mentioned twist already applied to the man", which means a twist that was previously applied makes his body rotate. The only twist mentioned before this was in your earlier post, so the rotation is dependent on that twist. I'm already resisting that and you locked that in. So I'm not ignoring any twist because there is no twist.
 

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@Wit you actually locked in a twist by resisting but not countering the twist. My post specifies a body twist so that is untrue that i did not mention one. In addition you simply do not have enough time to do what you're trying.

I will report it for an ending if required
 

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@Wit you actually locked in a twist by resisting but not countering the twist. My post specifies a body twist so that is untrue that i did not mention one. In addition you simply do not have enough time to do what you're trying.

I will report it for an ending if required

Since your body twist is based off and contingent upon the neck twist Wit has been resisting, I think it's fair to say we're not going to agree on this point, or on the timing. If you think those things are a major sticking point, then I think reporting is your best option.
 

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It might be worth mentioning in your report that we think the shots should be autohits, since your only real defense depended on them not happening or not being plausible, and we believe we have made them so @Xorism
 
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Sorry on my phone so reported it before i saw this post.

Maybe the ruling will state as you say but alas we shall see.
 

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Sorry on my phone so reported it before i saw this post.

Maybe the ruling will state as you say but alas we shall see.

No worries. Just glad to be able to move on with my final plots and such, hopefully. I do see that you were trying to impale Leto on my blade if possible, so I just want to point out that, since the blade is held in my left hand and my paws are outstretched, the blade would be pointed away from Leto, who is also coming from my left. Not the best position for impaling.

We'll see how the ruling goes though.
 

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Alright, report #3 has been filed, and that means your fates all belong to me.

The report asks four questions in a neatly ordered format (seriously, people in general, please submit your reports as clearly as some of these have been submitted for this thread. It makes it a lot easier if you clearly identify what you are asking)


1. Does Leto recieve fatal or not fatal damage from the force throw that he does nothing to prevent happening and never specifies if he was wearing a helmet.

The general rule of thumb here is that you can use everything on a profile within reason, including optional pieces to a tech profile, unless it would be unreasonable to do so, or otherwise stated. That being said, Leto does nothing to soften his impact or lessen the throw. Fennex does, which saves Leto's life. However, a helmet is no magic bullet against concussions. Given the power imbalance, point of bodily impact, and stated intent to injure or kill, Leto is now out of the fight with a severe concussion and a permanent brain injury. @Wit is free to determine what that is, but it should be more than being afraid of the color pink or something inconsequential.


2. Does Leto's body twist away from Xornoth, preventing accuracy for blaster fire.

For the most part. Hitting a target while on the move is tricky. That being said, Leto was devoting all his energy to make it at least possible to aim at Xornoth, and resorted to spray and pray, not an entirely bad tactic against a motionless target. Xornoth takes a hit and as he already took two, now has a serious injury. Even if his concentration on Leto is fully broken at this point, the existing momentum will not stop. That's not how momentum works, so Leto would still be receiving the damage from #1.


3. Does Xornoth receive fatal damage from Leto

He takes a serious injury. Not fatal, but enough to put him out of the fight considering how much energy he's expended in this battle. Unless he receives prompt bacta there may be a lasting, permanent negative effect. See the "old war wound" trope.


4. Does Fennex successfully hold Xornoth in stasis considering both the exhaustion of Fennex and the interruption of having his ally thrown at him which he defended against.

At this time it's a moot point. Xornoth in injured and exhausted, Fennex is exhausted but uninjured. His strength would slip a little by now but this is ruling 3 and there's no action taken against the grip beyond an attempted distraction. Xornoth is captured, but alive.

Finally:

As written, I can only interpret Kano's wounds as fatal. He would be facing severe internal hemorrhaging in multiple organs and blood vessels while unconscious. Kano is dead.

ADDITIONALLY, the method in which Leto killed Kano was pretty damn Dark, so he will be more susceptible to those urges in the future. It should be very interesting how this combines with the brain injury.

@Wit @Loco @Xornoth @Versok
 
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