Dawn of the Republic: Border Alliance

@Hatebackwards

Simple truth of the matter is this man. You can't predict shit, cause shit can't be predicted. Especially this far away from Next Timeline.

Better to talk about it and possibly prepare then be blindsided.

I agree with that.

But there is a point when you can talk yourself down into a hole. Then you get so far down in that hole, you suddenly realize "Hey maybe I shouldn't of dug this thing."

Basically, right now your digging a hole.

Hello all!

I am in the process of making a Jedi Knight who will be taking on the role of a Jedi Watchman. I will be chasing up leads on sightings as the Sith begin to crop up and trying to keep as close as I can to the front line to pick of stragglers that may have overstayed their welcome in BA, Republic or Jedi territory!

While you guys would likely be interested in dealing with your own stuff, I'd quite like to open some communications between what is happening on the BA affiliated worlds and my character. If you guys would like to roleplay meeting my character and help with my investigations or even call upon him to fight along side you then PLEASE feel free to hit me up with a PM!

Potential BA members. I would like you guys to consider the possibility of launching skirmishes (lethal, escape allowed ofc) against the SBZ immediately after the timeline is pushed. As some of you might know, the Admins are pushing out new rules for PVP. Regardless of how drastic of a change these actually are, they need to be stress tested. Being non-Force sensitive, it is even more imperative that our characters get an intimate understanding for how these rules work, as well as how they don't.

Furthermore, I want these to help set the tone for the SBZ and BA. If the timeline is written in such a way that open warfare isn't already occurring, then SBZ could fill the role of foreign insurgents - or the BA could be investigators hunting down supposed Sith sleeper cells. If open warfare is occurring, then these would be skirmishes setting the stage for future war.

I want this battle, or battles as the case may be, to set a tone for both factions, to challenge the Admins to set early precedents, and to otherwise test the rules, show personal worth, and get an early feel for what factions need to focus on to succeed in the long term outside the theories being hashed out in the TT.

Well, I'll be making a BA character, so I'd better poke my head in here and say "Hi" before running away.

Saul said:

Potential BA members. I would like you guys to consider the possibility of launching skirmishes (lethal, escape allowed ofc) against the SBZ immediately after the timeline is pushed. As some of you might know, the Admins are pushing out new rules for PVP. Regardless of how drastic of a change these actually are, they need to be stress tested. Being non-Force sensitive, it is even more imperative that our characters get an intimate understanding for how these rules work, as well as how they don't.

Furthermore, I want these to help set the tone for the SBZ and BA. If the timeline is written in such a way that open warfare isn't already occurring, then SBZ could fill the role of foreign insurgents - or the BA could be investigators hunting down supposed Sith sleeper cells. If open warfare is occurring, then these would be skirmishes setting the stage for future war.

I want this battle, or battles as the case may be, to set a tone for both factions, to challenge the Admins to set early precedents, and to otherwise test the rules, show personal worth, and get an early feel for what factions need to focus on to succeed in the long term outside the theories being hashed out in the TT.

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It might be helpful to get some updates from the Think Tank, first?

Sorry for the double post, I wanted to reminder everyone of a couple of key points:

1. You can want to roleplay with force sensitive characters. You can think it doesn't make sense for them to be in the BA. You are entitled to your opinions. That does NOT mean you have the right to try to bar or discourage members from playing their characters how they want. If a Jedi wants to fight with the BA, that's how they want to write - great. If a Jedi or force sensitive wants to JOIN the Ba, that's how they want to write - great. The Border Alliance is about defending the people's homes. It doesn't have the luxury of picking and choosing, because it's at war with an enemy that will gladly slaughter worlds if it gets them closer to their objectives. I can't say may, there will be updates on the BA in the coming weeks, but it makes no sense for you to try to put IC/OOC limitations on PCs.

2. This will be the first time on the site, since I joined in 2012, that I will not be using a Force User. I've seen the Manaan Rules at work, I've seen what the Think Tank is doing, and I've heard the admin's promises first hand: the changes in rules regarding PvP will NOT put you at an disadvantage. If someone is god-modding their powers, report them. Otherwise, new rules and limitations in place will continue to keep this in check. Updates expanding upon this will be released by the admins from the think tank, but I am in your shoes and I am not worried.

3. I'm REALLY excited for you all to hear what's in store for the BA. It'll be offering opportunities and a twist different than we have ever seen before. Be excited to be a part of this faction, because this is where the action is going to be!

4. Be prepared for the conflict to be beyond Good v. Evil. The BA is going to be dealing with a lot of difficulties and setbacks, and friends aren't going to be easy to come by. Remember that the Border Alliance is a loose coalition of Republic worlds. So as far as the Senate will be (and you ARE in the same faction as the Senate), the worlds that constitute the BA (and thus, the BA) can be influenced by legislation within the Senate. Reach out to the senators representing the BA worlds, because they're going to matter to your story.

If you have any questions or comments, I'd be glad to address them as well as I can with the radio-silence require of think tank members. I'll be mostly active as writer in the Senate, but I expect to make a BA PC later on if I can find the RL time. I'll try to be more active here, as well, to help steer us towards conversations that aren't being decided on in the TT and will actually help our faction.

@TAC

Is duel faction membership allowed? You say Jedi can be a part of the BA, but is that allowed? Asking out of curiosity, not arguing with you.

Also I myself will not roleplay a FS next Timeline, which I'm actually excited for. :)

No, it is not allowed. But the BA and Jedi would potentially be fighting the same threat. More on that will be coming out with the think tank updates, so I again have to close my yap before I get yelled at.

TAC said:

It might be helpful to get some updates from the Think Tank, first?

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Oh, I don't mean to undermine the TT's work, just to set the tempo for the timeline straight off the bat. I want combat this timeline, I want player deaths, I want glory and action and not sitting around waiting for leadership to make decisions. That didn't work this timeline, and I learned that that was a bad idea. If anything, the BA and SBZ design, as expressed so far, allows for significantly more autonomy for individual BA and SBZ players - matching the levels of autonomy the Jedi, Sith, and Mandalorians have - the level of autonomy that is absolutely necessary for successful roleplay.

I just realized that 90% of the posts in this topics were made by either Mando-players not interested in joining the BA, or Band of Ziost meddlers.

With a mere month left, whose actually -seriously- considering creating a soldier in the Border Alliance? (And I'm not talking about Admirals or exclusive PvP starfighter pilots)

Ecclessey said:

I just realized that 90% of the posts in this topics were made by either Mando-players not interested in joining the BA, or Band of Ziost meddlers.

With a mere month left, whose actually -seriously- considering creating a soldier in the Border Alliance? (And I'm not talking about Admirals or exclusive PvP starfighter pilots)

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Chandra-Fan sapper/field engineer right over here!

I had a thought. We know that Stormtroopers use coloured pauldrons to represent rank. And if the Border Alliance is a mix of troops from different worlds with their own command systems, why not develop the idea of a simplified pauldron ranking system.

White = Squad Leader

Black = Sergeant/NCO

Orange/Red = Commander

Simple, understandable and has a basis in canon. It's easily applied across all forces fighting in the BA, either as flashes or Empire-style pauldrons or shoulder protection.

Things like will be decided on by the think tank, @Silverface. Its a cool idea, but the ranks and etc have been decided on, and in a way that this won't be a problem.

If anything changes, though, I will surely recommend this.

Go for it, I was mostly musing about how to make a disparate collection of troops somewhat cohesive, without bogging down in pointless military guff. And, as people may have guessed, I'll likely be making a Border Alliance character in some fashion. Eventually.

I'm with @Ecclessey on this. We can sort out the faction's chain of command after we figure out how many people we can field. Not officers or pilots, but soldiers.

I appreciate the thought @Silverface, but like @TheHook1 said I've only seen two "confirmed" members today that will start the timeline with a BA character. You and @TAC stated a delayed timetable, which is perfectly fine, but if we really have such a limited memberbase I'm personally hoping we have very few officer ranks and mainly troopers so we have something to built on.

This Think Tank Thing better do us a good one and present something so awesome a lot of folks will flog to the Border Alliance Banner.

I've been all about creating a soldier for the BA ever since they announced the NTL. It's hard to say I'm 100% going to do it though because we don't have enough info yet imo.

I figured we could take a more semi-official role call.

I've tagged everyone who I could find from this thread. There were a lot of big walls of text I didn't care to read, so if I missed you, I apologize.

If you're planning on RPing with the BA, post here! Feel free to share your character idea or write-up. It's more helpful to look at each other's characters than speculate on what the structure or relationships will be for the BA - the think tank is in heavy discussion about it, and when it's ready, the admin will release it.

So, for now:

Confirmed:
@Ecclessey
@TheHook1
@TAC
@Silverface
@Hatebackwards (both soldier and senator)
@MasterTyvokka - Jacen Aust
@Kiro
@Aurek
@Necket
@Awoken
@Krajin

Indicated Interest:
@Braden Drake
@Archer
@Jira
@Praetor
@Sin
@Caine
@Mr.BossMan
@DangerousTinkerer
@Aleksandr
@Livgardist
@Crim
@Bauren