Dawn of the Republic: Jedi Knights

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Interestingly enough, on this site and a few others I've visited before settling here, there are many people that aspire to RP as Jedi. At the same time, the complexity of the issue arises when folks realize they really don't know how to RP as Jedi (or are at least unsure how they want to). This often results in people making the somewhat stale, rigid or dogmatic "Hero of Tython" esque Jedi, which can be fantasy-fulfilling for a time, but can just as easily - not to mention quickly - become boring, predictable and unengaging.

On the opposite side of the spectrum, some try to go against the current in creating a more avenging and edgy Anakin-like Jedi, but all too often fall into the snare of acting more Sith (or at best, amoral) than Jedi. This creates an obvious conflict, as the Jedi are very morally centered and fortified, with a strict code of beliefs, conduct and tenets that form the principals that govern their actions in their day-to-day life and activities.

Some try to find the balance, but end up making their Jedi seem like they have bipolarity or even multiple-personality disorder. There's even the attempt at making one's Jedi seem more like an "average Joe" to make them more relatable, only to have that indistinguishably make them not even seem like Jedi at all, just cool dudes with lightsabers. It's easy to play most other archetypes, even the many personality types of Sith (the superdy-duperdy evil Sith, the cunning sneaky Sith, the intellectual amoral Sith, etc.), but Jedi stand out as one of the hardest ones around.

This are plenty more variables, but this basically covers why I firmly believe that Jedi are some of the most difficult characters to portray, at least for those trying to "get the right feel" or really get into the little kid fantasy of playing a Jedi. I've not really done Jedi myself, but in my future approach, I'm trying to (if this makes sense) explicitly not create a Jedi from any of the molds, but build their personalities from the ground up, specifically regarding their interpretation of the Jedi Code. That's really suppose to be a pillar of their lives, but most Jedi seem to seldom reference or even think about it. I'm going for the devout crusader, one that might seem like an extreme zealot to strangers or outsiders, but is just very tempered in what the Code itself motivates Jedi to be.

I know that probably seems vague as hell, but I'm personally finding the defining of a "from the ground up" Jedi personality to be challenging... which is why that's going to be one of my main characters.

Cheers!
 
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@Korvo nice synopsis. I agree whole heartedly that Jedi are hard to play, as I've found in other SW RP outlets. I am working on my Marcus char to do just as you describe - make him unique but not superman or Angsty Anni. It is tough to get that feel right and I hope I can pull it off. I think one of the first goals of the new FL should be to make sure all the initial Jedi are well-written and well-thought-out characters.

@The Kyzer I'm not sure I have an answer for your inquiry. I think to understand where the Jedi are to start the TL will take more admin/think tank details, personally. But I think the most interesting part is that we'll get to RP out how the Jedi and Republic interact. We'll get to write that part of the story and how strained or successful that relationship is.
 

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@Korvo I agree with you and I actually see a gem of an idea in there. Once Fen has developed to that point I will add to her profile a paragraph or two explaining her interpretation of the Jedi Code and what it means for her. I'll actually be going towards the opposite of where you are going regarding that interpretation it seems so I'll be interested in what you end up with.

Actually, can we add that to some form of Trials? The character having to explain what the code means to them? I know it should be already but, might help? ;p
 

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Personally, I'm not seeing how the senate would ever vote against the Jedi realistically. In the end Jedi would be fighting battles on planets that would help protect the sovereignty of that planet no?

Interestingly though as people have mentioned, people do have different interpretations of their Jedi and what Jedi should do, which could in itself being up complications within the order itself?

For example a civil war rages on a planet, I believe that it should be Team A who is protected, they have been wronged and deserve their planet back, however another player may believe Team B is the one with the claim and is being oppressed by the other. Therefore me and the other Jedi would be on opposing sides of the same war?
 

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The issues I have with this weapon abound, so bear with me. It will come across as harsh:
- Scythes have never been an actual weapon choice unless you are peasant militia. This thing is a pretty utaku-y lightsaber design with very little practical application.
- The sheer number of grip changes you would need to do are laughable to make this thing work beyond parade use. The wielder would be more focused on where their own blades are rather than that of the enemy.
- Too large of a weak point. Unless the shaft is made of phrik, you'll be replacing that thing often. If an enemy gets in close, you are boned. If you are fighting another FU, they have a chance to resist your Force attacks. The Inquisitor spinny-whoosh-whoosh sabers and Kylo's crossguard saber are infinitely more practical.
- Blasters become a problem.
- If you want a polearm lightsaber, do a spear or glaive type of weapon. There is more variety and you can actually fight indoors, unlike with this thing. Think naginata, nodachi, yari, or halberd. Hell, remove the bottom saber and halve the shaft on that thing and it becomes far more practical.
- Currently, it feels like this is a weapon you want so your character can stand out in a crowd and be a special snowflake. The weapon does not make the warrior, though. Many a knight in history spent their life's wages to look scary and flashy and they got put in the ground by a peasant's pitchfork all the same.

While I named it a "LightScythe" it has no characteristics that make it one, it shares more with that of a glaive.
It is not meant to be a Lightsaber vs Lightsaber weapon, however while fully ignited the weapon has multiple prongs, they don't all have to be ignited at once. Igniting only the top or the bottom would make it no different to a lightsaber pike what was commonly used.
Blasters would be a problem, however if I'm fighting an opponent who also favours range I would have no need to use a weapon to keep them at bay.
 

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Unless they are shooting at you, then you have no real means of defense or counter attack. Meaning you'd have to make like the Doctor and run. The weapon is just terribly awkward and would be more a hazard to yourself or your allies. Again, cross-guard saber is infinitely more practical in application. Having Kylo's saber on a Pike shaft would give you more to work with against varied opponents.
 

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I'm new to this RP, but my character to the timeline is wanting to become a jedi. What is my first step to doing that?
 

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I'm new to this RP, but my character to the timeline is wanting to become a jedi. What is my first step to doing that?

Well we are about to transition to the new timeline, make yourself a workshop thread in the Dawn of the Republic: Planning sub forum, jot down ideas, collect pictures and keep your eye on the timeline announcement sub forum. There you will find all the information that you will need as it is released.

For questions you have about force powers, species pretty much anything that is not on the banned lists go as long as they in the current timeline.

Hope that helps, feel free to ask any other questions you have.

Welcome to SWRP!
 

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Say I wanted to create a character who believed in the Jedi message, despised the Sith and felt compelled to oppose them, but was not Force Sensitive? Would there be room to create a character as servant of the Jedi, being a full fledged member of the Jedi Order as a non-FS military member. This recognizes they would be at a disadvantage in encounters with the Sith, but I'm sure they could still be of use, and might be interesting rather than the vanilla Jedi experience?
 

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Say I wanted to create a character who believed in the Jedi message, despised the Sith and felt compelled to oppose them, but was not Force Sensitive? Would there be room to create a character as servant of the Jedi, being a full fledged member of the Jedi Order as a non-FS military member. This recognizes they would be at a disadvantage in encounters with the Sith, but I'm sure they could still be of use, and might be interesting rather than the vanilla Jedi experience?

I think that's a pretty cool idea personally. It would increase the standing army size for our offensive pushes. As well as that, while Jedi may be a lot of things, their entire lives have been devoted to the Jedi, with a character like you proposed they could bring knowledge, wealth and other things to the table that a normal FS Jedi could not!
 

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Felix Trandam


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NAME:Felix Trandam
FACTION: Jedi
RANK: Knight
SPECIES: Human
AGE: 30
GENDER: male
HEIGHT: 1.9
WEIGHT: 110kgs
EYES: blue
HAIR: bald
SKIN: white
CREDITS: na
DISTINGUISHING MARKS: burnt flesh
FORCE SENSITIVE: yes

STRENGTH:8 /10 Incredibly strong a well conditioned body
DEXTERITY: 6/10 Well trained and pretty agile but he is no gymnast
CONSTITUTION: 8/10 built like a wookie and with the endurance to match it
INTELLIGENCE: 5/10 well not stupid Felix never spent much time in studies
WISDOM: 5/10 no fool but he is rash
CHARISMA: 3/10 very rash and with out a funny bone
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PERSONALITY:
A humorless man that has seen to much war, Felix is now bent on destroying the Sith. He will hunt them where ever they go and in battle he shows no mercy and expects none. Loyal to the order and the men that he fights along side he expects this loyalty in return. His hatred of traitors borders on dark side willing to go to any length to deal with them.

In battle Felix is all about personal combat and skill. A skilled enemy could win his respect but only his respect. With his view on personal combat Felix does not focus on the force or care for much for those who depended on it over personal skill.

In dealing with people Felix sees the greater good and willing to sacrifice a few for the many even though it would it sadden him he all ways see the bigger picture.
BIOGRAPHY:
Born on Alderan to poor farming family he was identified at a young age as Force Sensitive. His family gave him to the order hoping his life would be improved by joining the order. He took well to his new life in temple and quicly showed he was adept at the more martial side of the training though he struggled in the more academic and spiritual side he never showed it and was never seen as struggling.

At the age of 16 Felix became a padawan. His first master was well trained in the force but even at this young age Felix could match her in pure light saber combat. Under her tutelage Felix was trained how to duel one that deepened heavily on the force. The very fact her Padawan was better in combat drove Felix's master to seek more power, felling threatened by him. This drive drover to the dark side. It was Felix that founded out about her fall. When confronted he her, she unleashed all that she had learned. His flesh burnt by sith magic and his body racked with lighting. Non the less Felix slew his old master. Refusing to have his scars healed he keeps them as a personal reminder.

At the age of 24 Felix was made a knight though he is seen as a poor teach with many padawan out pacing him in some areas. But in combat Felix is a force and when leading those not in need of training he is a competent leader with a good grasp of strategy and tactics with a good understanding of logistics

FORCE POWERS:

telekinesis 3/10
force speed 4/10
force strength 5/10
healing 1/10
force sight 3/10

SKILLS:

Competent pilot
training in tactics and strategy
hand to hand combat

LIGHTSABER/SWORD FORMS:
Makashi 7/10



STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES:
plus
lightsaber combat

negative
using the force
using the force in combat
dealing with diplomacy

GEAR:
double handed lightsaber with
tungsten nano-weave mail shirt offering protection against linted blaster fire and allot melee weapons
fire retarded thin suit
blaster resistant face mask and helmet

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NAME:
Jake
FACTION: Jedi
RANK: padawan
SPECIES: human
AGE: 9
GENDER: male
HEIGHT: 1.3 meters
WEIGHT: 40kg
EYES: black
HAIR: black
SKIN: white
CREDITS: non
DISTINGUISHING MARKS: non
FORCE SENSITIVE: Yes

STRENGTH: 3/10 Actual Jake is pretty strong but being a kid his strong is pretty weak
DEXTERITY: 6/10 O to agile like a child
CONSTITUTION: 5/10 Jake like most kids is full of energy and can bounce back from illness but he cant take a beating
INTELLIGENCE: 7/10 Jake is a fast leaner and enjoys academic studies, though he does not have a great deal under his belt due to age what Jake has learned he knows well
WISDOM: 2/10 It is not a weak mind, youth or lack of real life experience that makes Jake seem unwise. He is simply a idealistic book worm and suborn
CHARISMA: 5/10 well a cute kid, his idealistic views may rub badly with people

PERSONALITY:
Jake is a good nurtured kid that tries to see the good in every one and every thing. He hates conflict and violence and tries to avoid any fight or conflict. This makes him seem submissive. But in truth Jake is very suborn and many times only complies well being watched but he will not change his out look. This means Jake has few friends in his age group.

BIOGRAPHY:
Born on a back water world on the edge of republic space Jake's mouth a single women and drug addicted abounded him at the hospital. For 6 months he raised by the hospital staff before a Jedi knight passing through stumbled on to him and quickly realized Jake's force sensitivity. The order acquired Jake through adoption. Make the order Jake's actual family.

Jake's training began early and he was indeed strong in the force and enjoyed learning both normal education, force training, the history and philosophical teaching of the order. His fast mastery of skills and under standing of the Jedi way had Jake become one of the youngest Padawans. Even so Jake has yet to see or comprehend the losses, pain, fear and suffering that is war.

FORCE POWERS:
mind trick 2/10
force heal 3/10
force barrier 3/10
telekinesis 1/10
Tutaminis1/10

SKILLS:
piloting 2/10 Jake started his flight training a few months ago and as a few solo hours

LIGHTSABER/SWORD FORMS:
Soresu 2/10

STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES:
+he is a true jedi
-he is a true jedi
-bad in combat

GEAR:
Blue lightsaber


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I have a question regarding an ex-Jedi character for the next timeline. He is a 150 year old Pau'an knight who specialized in lightsaber combat. This also means he sucked at Force powers, history, philosophy, diplomacy, etc. He mastered Niman, is decent with Shii Cho, knows Jar'Kai, and Trakata.

My question: would you allow this?
 

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Considering that Niman is primarily used in conjunction with force powers would it not make more sense for an admitted blade master to go for something else? If you are looking to dual wield maybe a basis in Niman and specialty in Atari as both forms are known to lead into dual wielding if that is what you are aiming for as a fighting style.
 

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Niman actually works very well with dual blades, and Shii Cho's fluid by wild style seemed like a good mix. Plus, who would expect it?
 

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Interestingly enough, on this site and a few others I've visited before settling here, there are many people that aspire to RP as Jedi. At the same time, the complexity of the issue arises when folks realize they really don't know how to RP as Jedi (or are at least unsure how they want to). This often results in people making the somewhat stale, rigid or dogmatic "Hero of Tython" esque Jedi, which can be fantasy-fulfilling for a time, but can just as easily - not to mention quickly - become boring, predictable and unengaging.

On the opposite side of the spectrum, some try to go against the current in creating a more avenging and edgy Anakin-like Jedi, but all too often fall into the snare of acting more Sith (or at best, amoral) than Jedi. This creates an obvious conflict, as the Jedi are very morally centered and fortified, with a strict code of beliefs, conduct and tenets that form the principals that govern their actions in their day-to-day life and activities.

Some try to find the balance, but end up making their Jedi seem like they have bipolarity or even multiple-personality disorder. There's even the attempt at making one's Jedi seem more like an "average Joe" to make them more relatable, only to have that indistinguishably make them not even seem like Jedi at all, just cool dudes with lightsabers. It's easy to play most other archetypes, even the many personality types of Sith (the superdy-duperdy evil Sith, the cunning sneaky Sith, the intellectual amoral Sith, etc.), but Jedi stand out as one of the hardest ones around.

This are plenty more variables, but this basically covers why I firmly believe that Jedi are some of the most difficult characters to portray, at least for those trying to "get the right feel" or really get into the little kid fantasy of playing a Jedi. I've not really done Jedi myself, but in my future approach, I'm trying to (if this makes sense) explicitly not create a Jedi from any of the molds, but build their personalities from the ground up, specifically regarding their interpretation of the Jedi Code. That's really suppose to be a pillar of their lives, but most Jedi seem to seldom reference or even think about it. I'm going for the devout crusader, one that might seem like an extreme zealot to strangers or outsiders, but is just very tempered in what the Code itself motivates Jedi to be.

I know that probably seems vague as hell, but I'm personally finding the defining of a "from the ground up" Jedi personality to be challenging... which is why that's going to be one of my main characters.

Cheers!

I agree with this 100%. I also think one of the biggest issues about creating a Jedi, much like how you mention, is that people try to hammer different ideas into this mold that people have shaped Jedi into. This can be an issue with a lot of other factions, but I also agree that people going for this faction have the hardest time getting around it.

I'm not really sure what you mean by "from the ground up" as you yourself say that your description is vague, but I think a really great way to break against this mold is to remember that your person existed before they became a jedi. Instead of building a Jedi, build the person first, and then try to gain an understanding of how becoming a jedi changed that person, amplified certain strengths and weaknesses, or even cut off certain connections or future opportunities in life.

I plan to create my main character and roleplay him as an indie, getting off of his home planet and exploring the galaxy. He will meet a lot of people and as the timeline progresses and the plot thickens, he may eventually be drawn toward a faction for reasons I myself won't know about until they are roleplayed out. Of course that is not how most people are going to write their characters, but it kind of reminded me about how you want to make your character's personality from the ground up. I'm going a bit further and just building my character from the ground up, letting them go where the flow of the story takes them. Though a lot of people aren't going to take the route I am for my main character, it would be cool to see people writing their biographies and personalities like their characters existed before they became a jedi.
 

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I agree with this 100%. I also think one of the biggest issues about creating a Jedi, much like how you mention, is that people try to hammer different ideas into this mold that people have shaped Jedi into. This can be an issue with a lot of other factions, but I also agree that people going for this faction have the hardest time getting around it.

I'm not really sure what you mean by "from the ground up" as you yourself say that your description is vague, but I think a really great way to break against this mold is to remember that your person existed before they became a jedi. Instead of building a Jedi, build the person first, and then try to gain an understanding of how becoming a jedi changed that person, amplified certain strengths and weaknesses, or even cut off certain connections or future opportunities in life.

I plan to create my main character and roleplay him as an indie, getting off of his home planet and exploring the galaxy. He will meet a lot of people and as the timeline progresses and the plot thickens, he may eventually be drawn toward a faction for reasons I myself won't know about until they are roleplayed out. Of course that is not how most people are going to write their characters, but it kind of reminded me about how you want to make your character's personality from the ground up. I'm going a bit further and just building my character from the ground up, letting them go where the flow of the story takes them. Though a lot of people aren't going to take the route I am for my main character, it would be cool to see people writing their biographies and personalities like their characters existed before they became a jedi.

See, that's pure Luke Skywalker, right there, and I love it - exactly what I love seeing

Trying to define my approach a little bit clearer; I want to create a personality that is fully formed, built around experiences, not characteristics. For instance, with my Jedi, she's going to be part of a dynasty (similar to the Jedi Lords) and was "born" as a Jedi, but never really knew what that actually meant. She forced herself into a mold as she grew because she wanted to be part of her heritage, but because she made her thinking rigid and linear, and never meditated or understood exactly what she was becoming, a lot of her past will be filled with mistakes and regrets of erroneous actions as poor, short-sighted interpretations.

The consequences of her actions wouldn't have been of earth-shattering significance, but was still of the nature that it carried enough impact on her psyche to force her to shrink back to her roots and discover for herself exactly what it is she is making herself become, why she's doing it, and if it is what she really wants. What does it actually mean to be a Jedi Knight? Like what does it call for you to stand for? There were countless great Jedi throughout that ages, but what was it that really made them great? Most focus on the martial aspects, the wars they fought in and the evils they vanquished, and growing up, that's where she grounds her perceptions as well. But as she aged, her focus would shift from the physical accomplishments to her meditating on their devotion and faith. In turn, this will eventually change her while on her path of discovering what being a Jedi Knight actually calls for her to be - not martially - spiritually and morally.

Still working the details out, but that's the avenue of my approach.
 

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Lol. You guys are funny.

Some minor details you're overlooking.

1. This is the Old Jedi Order. The whole "He/she was a person before they were a Jedi" might not even possible.
2. The Think Tank hasn't even begun yet so now you guys have entered an area I like to call WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLLD SPECULATION.
3. U GUYS AND UR DEEP THINKS MAKE ME BRAIN HERT BADD

JEDI CRUSADES!

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Quick question: I noticed that the Stormtroopers have adopted the origins of becoming a Jedi (taken from birth to train to be a Stormtrooper). Does anyone know if this was a confiscation and change in lore (so that it is no longer a Jedi thing), or was it just appropriated by the Empire?
 

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1. This is the Old Jedi Order. The whole "He/she was a person before they were a Jedi" might not even possible.

To word it in the context of the old order, I enjoy it when people write about how their Jedi is a person as well as a Jedi. The whole idea we were discussing is how bland some profiles come out when they become a copy-paste of a sage/warrior Jedi trope, and how it is interesting and sometimes difficult to find some unique substance while also sticking to a sense of being a jedi in the rigid context of the old order.
 
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