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ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE


We will determine Location of, cause of, how to go about RPing, the zombies themselves, and the time period of this RP.

It is likely that we will try to do the most realistic version of the Zombie Apocalypse, so drop in as much info as you can, so that I can eventually compile it all into a single mass of agreed upon aspects of this Apocalypse.

I want to also agree upon the most realistic version of Zombies we may encounter; We all know that we won't be seeing George Romero, slow walking mindless zombies, so lets try to create a realistic zombie. In all honesty, it may be a dumber version of the I Am Legend Zombies.

Character creation will occur after we establish the different aspects of the Apocalypse we create.
 

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I think it might be cool to explore an idea similar to World War Z, there's a laboratory in which extremely lethal diseases viruses and plague type bacteria and whatnot are kept in laboratory conditions. They keep them alive so they can experiment on them and whatnot. Through some accident, major or minor an experiment results in the virus. Perhaps they are experimenting with the idea of biological warfare? They could be trying to engineer a super-virus to wipe out a massive portion of the world's population in secret, and an unfinished prototype with odd effects is accidentally released. Perhaps two different viruses are spliced together.

Maybe a chemical weapon, or synthetic element are invented and have the strange effect of creating zombies out of anything they don't destroy outright, also polluting the ground and air etc with chemicals and substances that can spread the virus (or w/e it would be I'm just going to continue to use 'virus,') through contact with a deep open wound or some thing like that.

It might be interesting to make the virus function in such a way that it can be contracted through being bitten or scratched, but maybe the injuries have to be pretty severe as it has a low contraction rate in the majority of the population or something unless you... drink contaminated water, or eat a contaminated animal. Maybe it takes effect only through muscle and fat cells operating like HIV or something but for muscles and fat only, so it could replicate itself, kill the immune system, and infect the brain (fat,) and muscles controlled by it.

It might also be cool to be in the aftermath of the dropping of a huge bomb on a foreign country and the fallout of this chemical warfare is killing everyone and some are turning into zombies, so everyone wears gas masks and rags around their faces (it shouldnt be so easy to catch because there would realistically be a lot more dead people, and not having everyone turn into zombies seems more realistic to me just because idt theres anything that could have the exact same effect on everyone. It would be cool in this situation to have the sky always be kinda dark or full of ash or something, you know to give it an otherworldly feel, maybe make it seem a bit poetic and melancholy.
 

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I think a dead rising style would be ideal.
A time frame of like 24-48 hours or something where our characters are all in a pokey little town, and have to survive until the army can helicopter us out.
 

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Maybe do it outside of America? Do it the UK, maybe even Canada, Russia or somewhere - always good to have a less stereotypical setting.
 

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Uk would be interesting without the widespread availability of guns
 

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People would need to find them - and also (in my humble opinion) the UK Government would be a little less ''MERICA, SHOOT EVERYTHAAANG''.

It would be nice to see a more 'society based' sim.

Also, I pitch the idea of a fallout based one instead of a zombie one - as I have found zombie ones are a bit to much 'Bang bang, look at my shootingness' and less 'Gritty Survival'
 

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Personally i'd enjoy the "Last of Us" style world.

Also, if you were in a city when shit went down, it's pretty lucky if you survive. Since there's everyone else trying to do the same thing and no doubt shit befalls everyone around you (newer War of the Wolrds, Cloverfield, etc). With a pokey little town of a few thousand, it's a much smaller issue.

The UK does have guns and not as few as people think. You'd just have to know where to find them and hope the owner is no longer using it.
 

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As I have found zombie ones are a bit to much 'Bang bang, look at my shootingness' and less 'Gritty Survival'

That is why I propose a Walking Dead RP set quite a few years after the outbreak. That way we have the slow moving zombies of the walking dead franchise, pushing the focus towards the actual survival aspect of the world. Hell, we could already have a community established and doing supply runs/etc. Perhaps facing an approaching horde that forces us to abandon our "home". Forced to start anew on the road, scavenging to survive?
 

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Mr. Mischief and Joy's ideas seem compatible enough to me. I like them together as well. Personally I don't like Cassa's idea for the dead rising style setting only because 24-48 hours seems like it would be a very rushed RP.

The Last of Us idea sounds really cool to me because the 'virus' is like some sort of airborne brain parasite, but all you need to do is cover your face in order to remain unafflicted. There are other people as enemies as well as the zombies. Combined with a Fallout-esque story I think this would be the most fun, and most interesting. Especially if the spread of the virus or whatever were to infect and mutate things besides humans. We could also start in a compound run by the military just like in the Last of Us, or a shelter like in the Fallout series. A satisfying reason we would all have to leave is beyond me though. The world in a Fallout-esque setting has lots of potential for weird and interesting occurrences, and like I said before, I still think we would benefit greatly from DMs. In fact I think any RP has room to benefit from DMs SWRP included.
 

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The parasite idea would make it easier to avoid the usual nonsensicalness of most zombie stuff. Like how they're rapid animals and brainless, but yet have enough restraint to not attack one another, or how they do need any source of fuel and can go indefinitely without it to keep functioning.
 

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That is why I propose a Walking Dead RP set quite a few years after the outbreak. That way we have the slow moving zombies of the walking dead franchise, pushing the focus towards the actual survival aspect of the world. Hell, we could already have a community established and doing supply runs/etc. Perhaps facing an approaching horde that forces us to abandon our "home". Forced to start anew on the road, scavenging to survive?

This I can imagine^
I like anything post outbreak, just because it would be incredibly difficult to survive the initial outbreak.

People don't always realize the full gravity of Sh*t that will be going down during the first outbreak. You have to take into account EVERYONE who will be involved, even in a small town...

We will have:

The Looters- These are people who don't necessarily grasp what's going on, but can see an opportunity when it shows itself. These will make up the majority of those on the streets. It will look a lot like the scene during the LA riots. They will loot for furniture, televisions, basically anything of value they can sell after the dust settles. (unfortunately we know the dust won't settle in a situation in which they would be able to profit from most of what they loot) Very few of these people will go for the same loot as the Survivalist Looters. (This mainly includes expensive prescription medications) These people will essentially act upon their desires. They will start fires, kill those they don't like or just random people, they will rape others. These are an ugly group of people to be sure.

The Survivalist Looters- These people are those who have done their homework on the impending Apocalypse, or who know that we won't recover from this. They will raid grocery stores, pharmacies, stores with any sort of weaponry in them, and Survival Stores of 'course. They will be grabbing anything they can in order to make it out alive after the dust settles. These are the few that are intelligent enough to grab what they can in order to survive in the long run. Unfortunately, these people, like all looters are subjected to the possibility of infection and injury/death from fellow looters.

The Rambos- These are the average Joe's that play way too many video games and found a weapon of any sort. They will be running around initially swinging axes and shooting guns at just about anything that moves. They will be looking for the infected, but the reality of the matter is that they won't be able to distinguish the difference between Humans and Zombies. they will most likely target anyone who is unfortunate to cross their path. These people will also be the first to die. Their recklessness will land them being shot by a looter, another rambo, or infected because of their idiocy. Because of their high levels of stupidity, I believe that (thankfully) this group of people will be quite small, but deadly regardless.

The Hiders- There the people too scared, possibly smart enough, to NOT go out into the chaos of the initial wave of the Apocalypse. These people will be safe inside their homes or some sort of refugee camp set up by the Government. Unfortunately in refugee camps, they will be at incredibly high risk of infection from others seeking shelter their who are already infected. Those that hide in their homes are safe until they run out of the little amounts of food they are likely to have in their homes. Then they suffer the likelihood of having their homes broken into by looters. This will be a rather large group, but not the largest.
There is another half of these people though! The very rare few of this group will be those who have already prepared for the Apocalypse and have gone all out in preparation. They have tons of weapons, they have a good deal food, and they will likely have a shelter away from home already. IF you want to know who these people are, look up just about any zombie survival video on Youtube.

Those Who Panic- These people actually won't have a clue what is going on and will simply flee or follow others to wherever they go and do what ever they do. Many of these people will do a combination of just about all of these different groups and is next to impossible to know how many of them there will actually be during the initial wave of the Apocalypse. They will actually mostly be killed due to their disorganization. They will also be doing a good deal of accidental killing, mostly by running people over in their cars in an attempt to get around the massive traffic jams.

Those Doing Their Jobs- These are of 'course those who serve in the hospital, military and police force. These individuals will be doing their jobs, and paying for it too. Police officers will be shot and killed by Looters and Rambos. Fire Men will be attempting to put out fires created by loiterers, but eventually being killed in a similar manner to the police officers. Paramedics will try to save those infected by the virus and end up getting their face eaten by a zombie during mouth to mouth... The hospitals will be filled to the brim with the infected, and we all know how that will end! And the military will be doing what they can, but like the Rambos they won't be able to tell the difference and will either pull a rambo and shoot everything or shoot nothing, and end up dead because of it. The only difference between the military and the Rambos is that the military is a much larger force, far more organized, intelligent, and has a LOT more firepower. Unfortunately, in smaller towns the military will occupy a very small presence (if any at all) unless this town happens to be ground zero. The military will occupy a massive presence in the larger cities, but keep in mind that the military isn't nearly as large as you may think, and they will actually not be able to spread themselves thin enough to cover everywhere. It's highly likely that the military will miss your town all together...

The Infected- We all know who these are, and we know that their population is an exponential increase. The more the faster it spreads, but this is highly dependent on the rate in which someone is infected. WWZ it was extremely fast at 12 seconds. This would cause an entire city the size of New York to be completely infected in a matter of hours (it would be faster than they portrayed in the movie imo). Infection in a matter of minutes may take a bit longer, but not that much longer. When WWZ could infect NY in 2 hrs, then a virus infecting people in minutes would take near 18hrs or so. Infection in hours might take a few days to infect, but the looters, rambos, and those who panic will kill off everyone before that could happen... And YES, I am pulling these numbers out of my *ss, but I would like to think that it's pretty accurate.

Then what happens with those groups of people interacting?

-As i said before, the scene will look a lot like the King Riots. There will be just pure chaos. Military and law enforcement will attempt to establish order without success. Infection will spread quickly regardless of infection time. People will be dropping like flies left and right.

-Traffic will be at a stand still. The reasons for this is that no one will be following any rules what so ever. Order is lost, and accidents will occur EVERYWHERE making it impossible to move your vehicle anywhere. Everyone's first instinct is to hop into a car to travel. Those that will be able to move will be on bicycles of they're smart or simply walking/running around, but the risk of serious injury or death outside of a vehicle is incredibly high. Most pedestrians will be flattened by a car trying to get around traffic... The only vehicles moving around will be tanks.

-There will be fires everywhere. Most of them will be set on purpose, but when they aren't put out, they will spread, and a lot of people will die depending on what they do. Many of these people in their own homes will be killed by these fires, because they will actually be too scared to leave their homes until it's far too late. Apart form fires, people will be firing everywhere. Guns will be shot at everyone, and I imagine it would be difficult to dodge the bullets in larger cities.

-Destructive tendencies will be brought out, and people will attempt to cause as much destruction they can manage (even if it's not on purpose it will happen). The looting will make the stores the most dangerous places you can be, and that's not even because of the chances of infection, but rather the chances of being killed by your fellow humans. Raping and killing will be going around. Some people's desires will be to kill that person at work that always annoyed you (Your Boss?). getting revenge on a neighbor. Then there are the sexual desires. Any random woman could be raped if they're attractive. Disgusting men will seek out that woman that rejected him and take what he wants from her... even kids will be involved as much as no one will want to hear it, but people are horrible when there aren't any rules or enforcing of those rules.

-The sickening likelihood is that the only people to survive are those who hide well enough, The lucky few refugee camps that happened to be successful, and the Survivalist looters/ those who panic that happened to survive the chaos of the initial wave. Of these people very few of them will survive the next month or so.

As far as long term survival goes, people have really taken for granted our current way of life:

-Most people don't know that that vehicle they were planning on romping with won't be able to be used during the initial wave, nor will it be able to be used the next 6 months to 2 years afterwards. Gasoline is only good for 6 months to 1 year after being distilled unless it's kept in a locations free from condensation build up, which are VERY few places. There are, however, products that can prolong the life expectancy of gasoline by up to 2 years, but that's really stretching it. Diesel fuel can last 1-2 years without those products.
The reason that gasoline goes bad, is because in locations where condensation is able to build up, the moisture will cause the fuel to create a gummy-like substance that will clog up your engine, and unless you know how to take apart, clean, and put back to gather your engine so that it works again, then you're kinda SOL with your vehicle after you use too much of that bad fuel. One of the few products that can help to prolong your fuel's life is called Sta-Bil. Just keep in mind that within 3-4 years the only mode of transportation will be animals, bicycles, or by foot.
For those who think that electric cars or alternatively fueled vehicles will be available, then think again. First problem there is that those cars are usually low powered, and make off roading next to impossible (which will be highly likely considering the traffic of the initial jams). Then there is the battery life that will go out almost as fast as the fuel. And finally, those cars that will charge from a wall plug of some sort, you have to keep in mind that power companies won't be producing power after the Apocalypse, so wall plugs of any type won't work.

-Leading off of power, there is the fact that power plants will become an eminent threat! Nuclear power plants scatter the US, and many other countries. These power plants will only last (and I didn't double check this) I believe 6 months or so before they can no longer function safely. after this, they will have a melt down and cause Chernobyl incidents across nearly every country. There will be immense amounts of nuclear fall out EVERYWHERE! This fall out won't disappear until a generation later (or a few generations- again, I didn't double check this).

-Then the next issue we have is with food. Canned goods looted from grocery stores will only last so long, even if they aren't touched. I didn't bother to look up how long they will last, but I know it's not as long as you would think. The issue here is where do we get our food from? We will have to grow, fish, or hunt our own food. Bringing the issues broom the previous point back into play, with the nuclear fall out, many animals will die, if unprotected. Plants will suffer the most form this (on fact, I'm not entirely convinced that the fall out won't send us into another Ice Age). All this fall out will require humans to wear HASMAT suits everywhere they go, just to not contract cancer from going out side.

--All in all, LIFe will be extremely harsh and difficult to live. Maybe we don't have to make the Apocalypse THIS realistic, but that's all up to you!~
 

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Those Who Panic- These people actually won't have a clue what is going on and will simply flee or follow others to wherever they go and do what ever they do. Many of these people will do a combination of just about all of these different groups and is next to impossible to know how many of them there will actually be during the initial wave of the Apocalypse. They will actually mostly be killed due to their disorganization. They will also be doing a good deal of accidental killing, mostly by running people over in their cars in an attempt to get around the massive traffic jams.

This will unfourtunately be the majority of the population and the group that likely takes the largest casualties, due to just literally walking into situations that are dangerous cluelessly.

Those Doing Their Jobs- These are of 'course those who serve in the hospital, military and police force. These individuals will be doing their jobs

Second likely highest casualtry rate being those whose jobs are to save lives, especialyl if they value others higher than their own in a sacrificing nature. Or the military being overconfident and 'standing their ground'.

-Leading off of power, there is the fact that power plants will become an eminent threat! Nuclear power plants scatter the US, and many other countries. These power plants will only last (and I didn't double check this) I believe 6 months or so before they can no longer function safely. after this, they will have a melt down and cause Chernobyl incidents across nearly every country. There will be immense amounts of nuclear fall out EVERYWHERE! This fall out won't disappear until a generation later (or a few generations- again, I didn't double check this).

Not unlike the camp thats based literally in a dam, in the game Last of Us.

-Then the next issue we have is with food. Canned goods looted from grocery stores will only last so long, even if they aren't touched. I didn't bother to look up how long they will last, but I know it's not as long as you would think. The issue here is where do we get our food from? We will have to grow, fish, or hunt our own food. Bringing the issues broom the previous point back into play, with the nuclear fall out, many animals will die, if unprotected. Plants will suffer the most form this (on fact, I'm not entirely convinced that the fall out won't send us into another Ice Age). All this fall out will require humans to wear HASMAT suits everywhere they go, just to not contract cancer from going out side.

From what i can tell, while the Clickers and such haven't done as much damage to the environment as you'd expect (since its a natural phenomia - a fungal spore), which means largely there is still food that is huntable or collectable.

That is why I propose a Walking Dead RP set quite a few years after the outbreak. That way we have the slow moving zombies of the walking dead franchise, pushing the focus towards the actual survival aspect of the world. Hell, we could already have a community established and doing supply runs/etc. Perhaps facing an approaching horde that forces us to abandon our "home". Forced to start anew on the road, scavenging to survive?

The walking dead is less about surviving the undead by surviving the nature of mankinds' continued self destruction despite no longer being 'safe'. ~

I think the Last of us offers the most out of everything. It's a bit of everything. Plus the "zombies" have stages, infected, to clicker, to corpses that spew spores. And it's not invisible, either. So you can 'see' when you need to wear your mask etc.


Either way, i like all the thought thats going into it. so count me in.
 
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This is starting to look really good.
 

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I'm sorry. I'm not familiar with the term Clickers. It sounds like a Zombie that spreads the virus?
 

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Clickers are the third and most distinctly recognized stage of the Infected. They have had prolonged exposure to the fungus, and now possess strength that significantly surpasses the average human. This makes them deadlier, but at the price of being completely blind due to fungal infection overtaking their face. However, Clickers are able to maneuver through areas by utilizing echolocation, which produces noticeable clicking noises to locate sources of sound.

Clickers appear less human than Runners, with faces that are skewed and scarred by fungus developed from their infected brains. The fungal plates have apparently adapted to keep the host/ pathegon alive and able to spread, as a direct shot to the face with a powerful weapon such as a revolver will more often than not just break off a chunk of the mold, leaving the Clicker's brain unharmed. Clickers are dangerous and much more aggressive than Runners, and no longer resist the fungus because their humanity has been completely eliminated. Clickers also possess what seems like very high intelligence, never leaving an area when they know or have heard food run by them, and will constantly check every available nook and cranny to locate the source of the sound with little regard to give up on the task at hand. Interestingly, most of the Clickers seen in the game appear to have been female humans.

When provoked, a Clicker will immediately enter into a "berserk mode," aggressively flailing its arms. At this point, if a survivor has been "spotted" by a Clicker, the Clicker will attack head on and will not flinch when shot unless using high powered rounds.

blind beserker plant zombie thingies.
 

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well, as far as the Type of zombie we will be using, I have one vote for using a Clicker-type zombie.
Are there any other ideas, as I like the idea of having a Clicker myself, but am still open to other suggestions. keep in mind that we can have a few different types of zombies as well. They don't all have to be the same...
 

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Have you thought about using some of the Left 4 dead zombies when the mutation advances.
 

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You know, if we are going with the fungal parasite angle of these zombies, where the human host is basically used as a incubator and vehicle and little else, we could see some pretty crazy variants come about. Certainly using left 4 dead, and maybe some other zombie/undead works like resident evil or even, to an extent, gears of war, could prove useful in coming up with monsters. Basically what I'm saying here is we don't need to limit ourselves to just the last of us zombie variants and we shouldn't be afraid to get a bit crazy here or there.

I rped in a few zombie rps, and I'd like to join this one, and often times the best moments can come from just completely throwing caution to the wind and making something crazy, like for example, being chased out of a hunting goods store by a zombie infected bear carcass.
 

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I like what you're saying about the infected stuff being a fungal spore. It would be cool to see variation within the variation too IMO kinda like mini-bosses I guess. It would also be cool if we end up going with the post apocalyptic thing if radioactivity kills them since they're fungal spores infecting human host. I think that makes sense, it would destroy whatever brain the human host had unless they somehow mutated to resist that, so we could go in a run down plant or something (for some reason I don't know) and suddenly encounter some super-strong mutant resistant to radioactivity, and be forced to kill it or let more like it spread I guess? Idk, maybe it would be cool if we killed it and used parts of it for ourselves. It would be nice to figure something out like that a bit later when some of our members come and go, the survivors can start using the 'zombies' own stuff against them, or to protect ourselves (shields made from strong clickers face plates.)
 
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