America scares the crap out of me

[Ols]

lol wat?

lol the age of consent in numerous states in America is 18.
lol hence the point about someone confusing a girl being sexually mature with the age of consent in any country.
lol why someone might think the age of 18 is when a girl is sexually mature.

lol.

Anyway, America doesn't scare the crap out of me. I don't see this as being a big deal really. At least, not when compared to all the child soldiers in other countries. *shrug

You can't compare countries in the developed world to those in the developing world. Two entirely different kettles of fish. If America was in the same state as countries in the developing world, gun laws would be rather low on the to-do list.

 

[Wing]

The thing, the United States is too large in terms of size and population with many diverse viewpoints. Generally, the south being pro-gun rights and the north being anti-gun rights. The south is too different than the north in many viewpoints. Some in the south think the only way they will be able to strive is through a peaceful partition of the United States.

 

[Endling vas Precious]

The views about Americans are funny up here, I was talking with my cousin today and I told her about the video, her response:

"Oh well, they already have handguns under their pillows anyways." (my cousin has purple hair and plays the accordion, 200+ awesome points.)

As most Americans view us as using polar bears for transportation to go to our Eskimo establishments.

I'm sure the majority of America (being 1/4, seeing as the other 3/4 is retarded) is sensible about gun safety etc. Albeit, the laws should be updated; federally and/or nation wide.

 

[Santoro]

The views about Americans are funny up here, I was talking with my cousin today and I told her about the video, her response:

"Oh well, they already have handguns under their pillows anyways." (my cousin has purple hair and plays the accordion, 200+ awesome points.)

As most Americans view us as using polar bears for transportation to go to our Eskimo establishments.

I'm sure the majority of America (being 1/4, seeing as the other 3/4 is retarded) is sensible about gun safety etc. Albeit, the laws should be updated; federally and/or nation wide.

Wow there's so many annoying things about your post, I don't know where to begin.

 

[Neutrino]

Seriously... you're comparing the USA, to poverty-stricken lawless states in Africa? The fact that there are child soldiers over there is horrible, but the entire situation over there is horrible. In a developed country like the USA, there is no excuse for having deadly weapons all over the place. The idea that people want to have guns right at their bed is terrifying imo. Think about it - what if a man's wife decides to surprise him, getting home one night from a business trip or something? He could think she's a burglar, and end up shooting her, because he has a lethal weapon so close at hand. That's just one example of how a lack of gun control can lead to tragedies. And there's no denying that it has lead to a lot of tragedy in the USA.

lol the age of consent in numerous states in America is 18.
lol hence the point about someone confusing a girl being sexually mature with the age of consent in any country.
lol why someone might think the age of 18 is when a girl is sexually mature.

lol.


You can't compare countries in the developed world to those in the developing world. Two entirely different kettles of fish. If America was in the same state as countries in the developing world, gun laws would be rather low on the to-do list.

...I don't remember mentioning the continent of Africa...

If we're talking about America as a whole, then we're dealing with things on a national level. That was my thinking anyway. So to compare nations and rate how much a nation scares the crap out of me would seem fair. And frankly, I don't have to defend what I can and cannot compare here. America definitely doesn't make it high on my list of nations that scare the crap out of me. That is all.

And Ols, I was just wondering if you really knew that the age of consent was not a federal law. I have seen you state several times (in different threads) that the age of consent is 18 in the US. It seemed really silly considering the age of consent is 16 where I live in the US. Sorry you thought I was speaking on the sexual maturity of a female.

 

[Nisxsz]

to the people who said America scares the crap out of them,

yall are all pussies

 

[Neutrino]

to the people who said America scares the crap out of them,

yall are all pussies

Yea, that's basically what I was thinking...

 

[Tsar Fire]

Just so you know, kitchen knives could be used to kill people, as could most household cleaners... As a matter of fact, you could use CO2 emissions from cars to kill people, with a little bit of rope and a large sock.

It isn't guns that kill people, it's people that kill people. Guns just make it less work.:CIsee:

So... don't go saying I can't have my guns, because I'm lazy.:CHappy:

Just Kidding. (About that last bit.)

 

[Kaeb]

to the people who said America scares the crap out of them,

yall are all pussies

Most intelligent post on this site or MOST intelligent?

 

[Nisxsz]

Most intelligent post on this site or MOST intelligent?

****in' MOST

 

[Kaeb]

****in' MOST

Mocking you mate. Mocking you.

 

[Ols]

...I don't remember mentioning the continent of Africa...

Sorry, your mentioning of child soldiers led me to jump to a place in the modern world that has them.

And Ols, I was just wondering if you really knew that the age of consent was not a federal law. I have seen you state several times (in different threads) that the age of consent is 18 in the US. It seemed really silly considering the age of consent is 16 where I live in the US. Sorry you thought I was speaking on the sexual maturity of a female.

Obviously you've completely misunderstood what I said. As I said, the age of consent in numerous states is 18, hence why someone (ie Endling) might assume that a girl under 18 isn't sexually mature.

And in future I'll be sure to say "a number of states within the US" rather than just "the US" next time I'm talking about the age of consent being 18 because obviously I am just a really silly guy. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[Viggy]

...I don't remember mentioning the continent of Africa...

You mentioned child soldiers. Right now, I don't know of any countries with children in the military other then countries in Africa, and perhaps countries in the Middle East.

If we're talking about America as a whole, then we're dealing with things on a national level. That was my thinking anyway. So to compare nations and rate how much a nation scares the crap out of me would seem fair. And frankly, I don't have to defend what I can and cannot compare here. America definitely doesn't make it high on my list of nations that scare the crap out of me. That is all.

You simply can't compare a problem in a first world nation (USA's lack of gun regulation) to a problem in the third world (child soldiers). As Ols put it, it's two different kettles of fish. Should we say that the ghettos in the USA's major cities are nothing to be worried about, because the poverty is worse in India? Obviously, no. And likewise, the gun violence and general lack of gun control in the USA is a serious problem that does (or should) scare anyone who doesn't want to get shot. The fact that things are worse in a few other places isn't relevant, the USA is a major part of the Western world and therefore it is held to a higher standard. The rampant availability of very lethal weapons is an issue that is not acceptable in a developed country like the USA.

And to all the people saying 'oh well we should regulate kitchen knives too then?', I can't believe that argument is even coming up. It's obviously a lot easier to kill someone with a gun then it is with a knife. Because a gun, you know... does it faster and more efficiently and from further away?

 

[Cailst]

And to all the people saying 'oh well we should regulate kitchen knives too then?', I can't believe that argument is even coming up. It's obviously a lot easier to kill someone with a gun then it is with a knife. Because a gun, you know... does it faster and more efficiently and from further away?

But knives have the advantages of not needing ammo, being quieter(unless you have a silencer and even then), and doesn't require any skill in aiming or loading.

It probably depends on the situation and the skill set of the murderer.

 

[Ser Gregor]

Knives are a tool used for many different tasks. Guns kill. That is the only thing they do.

Big ****ing difference there.

 

[Grath Wyvrin]

Just because someone owns guns doesn't mean they're going to go and kill people. People have guns because they like to hunt, shoot for fun and, believe it or not, defend themselves. The world is full of crazy people, and having a gun is a great way to make sure you don't die. I'm not talking about a gun that HAS TO BY LAW be disassembled or have a safety lock on it or any of that crap, I'm talking about a gun that's ready to go! If some crazy crap comes blowing into your house, you don't have time to assembled the trigger mechanism or what have you, you've got to have that sucker ready to blow that intruders brains out.
We've tried gun control in American, it doesn't work, Washington D.C. has pretty much BANNED guns for its civilians, so guess who has the guns? The criminals. They don't give a dump about what the law says, they want to kill, hurt or rob people and if they can get their sweaty, greasy hands on a gun then they will. Washington D.C. has an appalling gun crime rate, and it has banned guns.

Point is, banning guns doesn't work, it makes stuff worse.
(I can get statistics on the murders and stuff in D.C. if anyone is curious.)

 

[Ser Gregor]

Just because someone owns guns doesn't mean they're going to go and kill people. People have guns because they like to hunt, shoot for fun and, believe it or not, defend themselves. The world is full of crazy people, and having a gun is a great way to make sure you don't die. I'm not talking about a gun that HAS TO BY LAW be disassembled or have a safety lock on it or any of that crap, I'm talking about a gun that's ready to go! If some crazy crap comes blowing into your house, you don't have time to assembled the trigger mechanism or what have you, you've got to have that sucker ready to blow that intruders brains out.
We've tried gun control in American, it doesn't work, Washington D.C. has pretty much BANNED guns for its civilians, so guess who has the guns? The criminals. They don't give a dump about what the law says, they want to kill, hurt or rob people and if they can get their sweaty, greasy hands on a gun then they will. Washington D.C. has an appalling gun crime rate, and it has banned guns.

Point is, banning guns doesn't work, it makes stuff worse.
(I can get statistics on the murders and stuff in D.C. if anyone is curious.)

Ah, yes, of course, the tried and true "America is special and needs special laws." That's complete bullshit. If that was the case, Canada, the UK, Japan, would all be ****ing RUN by criminals. They aren't, fyi, and have practically no gun crime compared to you.

That argument isn't a valid one and never will be, at least in the case of gun control.

As for the case in Washington, that's because the criminals can go to Virginia and get all the weapons they ****ing NEED. You need nation wide gunlaws, or else it's not going to work.

 

[Grath Wyvrin]

Ah, yes, of course, the tried and true "America is special and needs special laws." That's complete bullshit. If that was the case, Canada, the UK, Japan, would all be ****ing RUN by criminals. They aren't, fyi, and have practically no gun crime compared to you.

That argument isn't a valid one and never will be, at least in the case of gun control.

I really don't know how to respond to this, because I really have no idea what you're talking about.

I never said a thing about American needing special laws. Last time I checked, gun control wasn't an international affair, what do American's gun laws have to do with Canada or Japan?

 

[Ser Gregor]

I really don't know how to respond to this, because I really have no idea what you're talking about.

I never said a thing about American needing special laws. Last time I checked, gun control wasn't an international affair, what do American's gun laws have to do with Canada or Japan?

You're arguing that civilians need guns to protect themselves from criminals. Canada, the UK, and Japan all have gun laws, Japan being having the most severe laws.

Now, with your logic, that civilians need to protect themselves form criminals, Japan should be pretty much run by it's underbelly. The civilians have no weapons to protect themselves, after all. Thing is, it isn't, and Japan has one of the lowest gun related crime rate in the developed world. Why? Because it's very difficult to get a gun.

Now, since you seem staunch in assuming that if you get rid of your guns, the criminals will run rampant, obviously that must mean America is special, and not liable to the stats of every other state with less gun crime and more gun laws. That means America must be special.

Thing is, it isn't.

 

[Grath Wyvrin]

You're arguing that civilians need guns to protect themselves from criminals. Canada, the UK, and Japan all have gun laws, Japan being having the most severe laws.

Now, with your logic, that civilians need to protect themselves form criminals, Japan should be pretty much run by it's underbelly. The civilians have no weapons to protect themselves, after all. Thing is, it isn't, and Japan has one of the lowest gun related crime rate in the developed world. Why? Because it's very difficult to get a gun.

Now, since you seem staunch in assuming that if you get rid of your guns, the criminals will run rampant, obviously that must mean America is special, and not liable to the stats of every other state with less gun crime and more gun laws. That means America must be special.

Thing is, it isn't.

Yes, civilians can use guns to defend themselves, we shouldn't have to rely on the police, not that they do a bad job, it's just that they can't be everywhere at once.

Well America is obviously different than Japan, the UK and Canada, because, like in D.C., where there arent guns, there is more crime.

I imagine that the governments in Japan, the UK and Canada have much more control over their population than here in American, that is probably why it is so hard to get a gun.

Anyway, here is the statistics on D.C. if you're interested: http://gunowners.org/sk0601.htm