ATTN: Evacuation from Sith Space

[Demiurge]

Attention to all Mandalorians, take note that you have been occupying segments of Sith space since before the war actually stared. Beginning immediately, the Imperium will no longer tolerate the Mando's presence in their territories.

In accordance with that, all Mandalorian forces, operations, and residents have one week - seven (7) days - from the 28 of December to evacuate all Imperial declared space. In case there is any confusion as to what this entails, in a nutshell, whatever's green on the galaxy map, will become red.

If not met, the continued occupation will be seen as hostile, and the Empire will remove the Mandalorians by force. The doing of that in turn, will be considered an act of war. The aforementioned terms are non-negotiable and unconditional, regardless of what was applied by the Think Tank's initial renderings of the map and consequently has no bearing - we simply want you out of there.

If you've got time to RP missions and other Mando RPs, you can RP the evacuations.

Deadline is January 4th.​

 

[Fusion]

Now this is a smart move right here. With the Jedi not getting off their asses to respond to the challenge, and the Knights' back all but broken, the Mandalorians are the final remaining corporeal threat. And considering the destabilization of them due to the Think Tank taking a shitload of time, there's a good chance they'll be crushed and this timeline will end.

 

[Loco]

Bollocks.


Now, I was under the impression that, as a faction, our hands were tied until a Think Tank decisions was reached? We've been doing individual pithy little threads waiting for those decisions to be published. We all seemed to be under the impression we were sidelined until that time.

 

[Syn]

Now this is a smart move right here. With the Jedi not getting off their asses to respond to the challenge, and the Knights' back all but broken, the Mandalorians are the final remaining corporeal threat. And considering the destabilization of them due to the Think Tank taking a shitload of time, there's a good chance they'll be crushed and this timeline will end.

The timeline will not end if the sith win it will just adapt. Now granted this happening will be hard with the think tank still in session.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Now this is a smart move right here. With the Jedi not getting off their asses to respond to the challenge, and the Knights' back all but broken, the Mandalorians are the final remaining corporeal threat. And considering the destabilization of them due to the Think Tank taking a shitload of time, there's a good chance they'll be crushed and this timeline will end.

I really love how you don't know what you're talking about.

1) The Jedi are now getting off of their asses.

2) The think tank has not destabilized the Mandalorians. Nothing in the RPing of the Mandalorians has thus far changed. As Phil himself has made abundantly clear, the Mandalorians are to continue RPing as if no think tank even existed. If people haven't done that, then that's their problem.

3) The Mandalorians being crushed wouldn't mean the timeline would end at all.

Let me also save people the time of PMing me about this: this is a valid and legitimate move on the part of the Empire, and there's no reason to involve admins based on this one declaration alone.

Remember, the only risk to the Mandalorians here is if the Mandalorians stay in their territory and fight the Empire. If they leave their territory and go into Alliance space, they'll be given a place to settle and they'll be given autonomy as allies. They'll be able to continue fighting the war.

 

[Lupe]

Well this is not good.......

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Bollocks.


Now, I was under the impression that, as a faction, our hands were tied until a Think Tank decisions was reached? We've been doing individual pithy little threads waiting for those decisions to be published. We were all under the impression we were sidelined until that time.

This faction was not put on hold. Your hands have not been tied. All that was put on hold were the threads involving Corden challenging Phil. Any action taken to not RP the Mandalorians during this time was on the part of the faction and its members, not the admins.

 

[Bad Wolf]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBoV5raV7PU


This is MANDALORE!!!!

 

[Sreeya]

Bollocks.


Now, I was under the impression that, as a faction, our hands were tied until a Think Tank decisions was reached? We've been doing individual pithy little threads waiting for those decisions to be published. We were all under the impression we were sidelined until that time.

Not in regards to this. This would happen regardless of what the Think Tank decides for Mandos. For example, the Think Tank could suddenly write that Mandos are actually allied with Empire, and we would STILL want them out and claim those territories. Chazwa and Tirahn are under Chiss holding, which blocks Mandos off from GA space. We did that a while ago to light a fire under Mando's ass to give them the hint that we want them out and we're going to be hostile. And we've been waiting since. And now that the GA and Empire aren't attacking one another during this down time, this is the perfect chance for Mandos to get out. And if they don't, this is also the time where we can afford to go to war with Mandos without worrying about immediate GA threats. That's why this is being enforced now.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Also to stem any thoughts of "the Sith are only interested in winning," if that was the case then they would've attacked immediately. They wouldn't give an ultimatum with a week to meet it. They would just attack. Should you choose to leave, you can, and you can do so without a single PC death, a single NPC death, and the loss of a single piece of military might. All that would change is where the Mandalorians lived.

 

[Loco]

This faction was not put on hold. Your hands have not been tied. All that was put on hold were the threads involving Corden challenging Phil. Any action taken to not RP the Mandalorians during this time was on the part of the faction and its members, not the admins.

I feel like that should have been made more clear. Hell, we're still missing write ups from the original version of the factions. Even what war plans we've been making recently, much was still pending TT revisions. Forgive me for quoting you, but you said;

The Mandalorian faction clearly needs to go back to the drawing board a bit, and that's something we're going to have to work on starting now.

Which seemed to indicate that the faction was essentially sidelined. This idea was reinforced by the fact that there have been no major threads involving us except what the members have tossed haphazardly together themselves. Phil said to play our Mandos, but I took that more as "don't let your characters stagnate" rather than "ignore everything that's going on".

We can work with this, but it ****ing sucks, and I think some things have been handled poorly- primarily communicating to us all what's actually going on.

Chazwa and Tirahn are under Chiss holding, which blocks Mandos off from GA space.

That must have been before I joined.


To be clear, I'm not complaining about the Siths move. I knew it would happen eventually. I just didn't know it was going to happen while we all thought the faction was in administrative limbo.

 

[Syn]

I'll tell Arm to tell phil and johnny on xbox live.

 

[Dread]

I took over Chazwa and Tirahn right after I became Chiss FL.

 

[Dmitri]

Yes, the Mandalorians are in a bad situation, Loco, but the universe isn't fair. The Sith realistically would claim more territory, and they're being nice by letting you leave before they take the territory. They could always attack now, crippling the Mandalorians. Think about that before complaining. You want the Mandos to become a Main Indie Faction like the Imperial Knights? I doubt it.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

I feel like that should have been made more clear. Hell, we're still missing write ups from the original version of the factions. Even what war plans we've been making recently, much was still pending TT revisions. Forgive me for quoting you, but you said;



Which seemed to indicate that the faction was essentially sidelined. This idea was reinforced by the fact that there have been no major threads involving us except what the members have tossed haphazardly together themselves. Phil said to play our Mandos, but I took that more as "don't let your characters stagnate" rather than "ignore everything that's going on".

We can work with this, but it ****ing sucks, and I think some things have been handled poorly- primarily communicating to us all what's actually going on.

http://www.thestarwarsrp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34487

I just want you all to be aware, Mandalorian Members anyways, that none of you are at fault. I also want you to all realize that this should not stop you from doing stuff for the Mandalorians. Long as they are not faction changing stuff yet, just go and have fun with the Mandalorians and once the Staff have come to terms with a decision, expect one to be posted. Thank you.

No. Regardless of what is decided there is no telling if it means an entire reboot. Characters can still, in my opinion, continue to interact as they are. Putting a hold on all activities will only hurt the faction.

You can still RP your Mandalorian character. In fact, PLEASE continue to RP. The think tank will be clarifying the Mandalorians and may be changing a few things, but I sincerely doubt we'll come up with anything that'll force an entire rewrite of anyone's chars.

You were in that thread. It was pretty clear.

 

[Loco]

Yes, the Mandalorians are in a bad situation, Loco, but the universe isn't fair. The Sith realistically would claim more territory, and they're being nice by letting you leave before they take the territory. They could always attack now, crippling the Mandalorians. Think about that before complaining. You want the Mandos to become a Main Indie Faction like the Imperial Knights? I doubt it.

Like I said- I knew the Sith would make this move eventually. It was inevitable. We've been making what plans we thought we could. My issue is that it has happened at a time where we have minimal leadership and involvement, PRIMARILY because it was indicated that we as a faction were on administrative hold. That may not have been explicitly stated, but nothing was explicitly stated, and that's what the indicators seemed to point to.

We went on, we had fun, we did little things with our Mandos like Phil said. Realistically speaking, if things were to continue as normal, then the challenge thread with Corden should not have been locked. We should have been allowed to settle our differences and move forward as a whole months ago.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Like I said- I knew the Sith would make this move eventually. It was inevitable. We've been making what plans we thought we could. My issue is that it has happened at a time where we have minimal leadership and involvement, PRIMARILY because it was indicated that we as a faction were on administrative hold. That may not have been explicitly stated, but nothing was explicitly stated, and that's what the indicators seemed to point to.

Read my above post. You are wrong. It was not indicated that you were on hold.

 

[Vencu]

Some people obviously misinterpreted what was said or didn't feel it was clear enough. Personally, I believe a cultural shift in either direction would determine a great deal about what we can do and not do as a faction... that's why so many of us have been hesitant to start main threads. Regardless of that, this ultimatum has been given; it's an in-character action and we must respond to it in kind. True, we might be at more of a disadvantage, both IC and OOC, but since when does everything go our way? Never. Let's drive on, adapt, and overcome. That's what the Mandalorians do best, isn't it?

 

[Dmitri]

The Mandalorians should move to Florida. I hear it's nice this time of year.

 

[Loco]

Read my above post. You are wrong. It was not indicated that you were on hold.

Got it. I'll admit and accept that. I misread the situation. However, it does not appear that I'm the only one that misread the situation, and that seems to include our leadership. If we were all, or even mostly, under the wrong impression, then perhaps this miscommunication is something that should be looked at and fixed in similar situations down the line.



Like I said- we can work with this. We've got enough active members to reply to the Siths demands, in one way or another. We can move on, survive. And you guys are right, at least the Sith are forcing the timeline forward, which is good. This does, however, mean some immediate changes need to start happening, which I'll propose in another thread, so I'm not polluting this one further. It would be nice to have all the write ups for the faction now though..