Cheney in wheel chair.

[Flame]

The VP might be growing in power, since Cheney is our most powerful VP in history, pretty much, so it's probably worth keeping an eye on Biden.

*Sighs* Cheney really didn't have that much power. Bush was the one behind the oval office making the decisions. Read the Right Man by David Frum. It's an insider account of the White House. I didn't finish it but I got through the first 200 pps. or so, and Mr. Frum noted that Cheney had very limited power.

So it's not only Bushes fault, remember the Democrats have been in control of Congress *plus the house I think, and alot of Senate seats* since 2006. Anyone remember how much a gallon of oil was back in 2000? Probablly not as much as it has been in the past couple of years.

 

[Lavi]

I know Cheney didn't have much, but he had the most power a VP had while not taking over the duties of the President.

 

[Flame]

Which still is very minute and miniscule.

 

[JM76]

*Sighs* Cheney really didn't have that much power. Bush was the one behind the oval office making the decisions. Read the Right Man by David Frum. It's an insider account of the White House. I didn't finish it but I got through the first 200 pps. or so, and Mr. Frum noted that Cheney had very limited power.

So it's not only Bushes fault, remember the Democrats have been in control of Congress *plus the house I think, and alot of Senate seats* since 2006. Anyone remember how much a gallon of oil was back in 2000? Probablly not as much as it has been in the past couple of years.

While I agree with your first few statements, I'd have to say that your last one is bordering on a non sequitur. I would assume the current price of oil have very little to do with the Democrat-controlled Congress. And the low gas prices back when Bush first became President in 2000 were more likely an effect of the economic prosperity we were going through during the 80's and 90's.

 

[Lavi]

You're missing the point: Biden might increase the power of the VP. Then his successor might do the same, and then his successor might do the same again, and then again. It's been happening with the President, so why not?

 

[Imperator]

So what if Biden increases his power? Except for the deciding vote the president can negate any powers the VP gains.

 

[Flame]

Why not Lavi? Because Biden is an incompetent, plagirizing (hope I spelled that right) fool. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xSy-DkU8cc See link for evidence lol, kinda sad imo.

JM, for now I will concede this point to you because I am not as highly educated in the economic environment. I'm going to start doing research this summer, when I have some more time.

 

[Ser Gregor]

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=KoYlCkHdNlU

amirite?

So it's not only Bushes fault, remember the Democrats have been in control of Congress *plus the house I think, and alot of Senate seats* since 2006. Anyone remember how much a gallon of oil was back in 2000? Probablly not as much as it has been in the past couple of years.

Yea, saying the high gas prices we see now are because of the Democrats is laughable. Firstly, the economy was booming in 2000, and oil was cheap. Katrina, the wars, and international issues all compounded with the economic upheaval to increase gas prices.

 

[Flame]

As I stated earlier, this summer I will find time to write an essay in defence of conservative economics and policies. I think that the economic troubles that we the USA is facing right now is a direct result of both parties, not just the Dems nor just the Repubs. But let me reiterate; please w8 till summer. I'm going to be very busy until then.

 

[JM76]

As I stated earlier, this summer I will find time to write an essay in defence of conservative economics and policies. I think that the economic troubles that we the USA is facing right now is a direct result of both parties, not just the Dems nor just the Repubs. But let me reiterate; please w8 till summer. I'm going to be very busy until then.

I'd be interested in reading your findings here if you posted them as a really long rant/essay thread. Or you could just PM me.

Though, to be fair, if you're going to try to defend Conservative economic policies, I would avoid any Bush economic policies; if you're going to try to study a certain Republic/Conservative President, it would have to be Regan. And if you are truly interested, I would recommend reading Adam Smith's The Wealth of Nations, which attempts to defend the free market concept.

 

[Green Ranger]

I'd be interested in reading your findings here if you posted them as a really long rant/essay thread. Or you could just PM me.

Though, to be fair, if you're going to try to defend Conservative economic policies, I would avoid any Bush economic policies; if you're going to try to study a certain Republic/Conservative President, it would have to be Regan. And if you are truly interested, I would recommend reading Adam Smith's The Wealth of Nations, which attempts to defend the free market concept.

*Resists the urge to start ranting about free market.*

I'd be interested in reading it too, tbh.

 

[Sovereign]

I'd be interested in reading your findings here if you posted them as a really long rant/essay thread. Or you could just PM me.

Though, to be fair, if you're going to try to defend Conservative economic policies, I would avoid any Bush economic policies; if you're going to try to study a certain Republic/Conservative President, it would have to be Regan. And if you are truly interested, I would recommend reading Adam Smith's The Wealth of Nations, which attempts to defend the free market concept.

I would also recommend reading The Communist Manifesto by Marx and The General Theory of Employment, Interest, and Money by Keynes.

 

[Ser Gregor]

For the rest of you who don't think they can stomach that, I suggest Dr. Seus.

 

[Caleb]

For the rest of you who don't think they can stomach that, I suggest Dr. Seus.

One Fish, Two Fish. Capitalist Fish, Communist Fish

Just doesn't have the same ring.

 

[Ser Gregor]

One Fish, Two Fish. Capitalist Fish, Communist Fish

Just doesn't have the same ring.

Dr. Seus will teach you more than most educators ever will.

 

[Sovereign]

Dr. Seus will teach you more than most educators ever will.

Nobody can pronounce his name right.

 

[Johnnysaurus Rex]

Dr. Seus will teach you more than most educators ever will.

He taught me to never let an anthromorphic can wearing clothing into my house for 'fun' on a rainy day.

 

[Phil]

For the rest of you who don't think they can stomach that, I suggest Dr. Seus.

God damnit, Nexus! I do not want Green eggs and Ham!
I do not like them in a box.
I do not like them with a fox.
I do not like them in a house.
I do not like them with a mouse.
I do not like them here or there.
I do not like them anywhere.
I do not like green eggs and ham.
I do not like them, Nexus!

:CStern:

 

[Caleb]

Nobody can pronounce his name right.

I can. Dr. Soy-ce.

 

[Imperator]

I'd be interested in reading your findings here if you posted them as a really long rant/essay thread. Or you could just PM me.

Though, to be fair, if you're going to try to defend Conservative economic policies, I would avoid any Bush economic policies; if you're going to try to study a certain Republic/Conservative President, it would have to be Regan. And if you are truly interested, I would recommend reading Adam Smith's The Wealth of Nations, which attempts to defend the free market concept.

Didn't Reagan triple the public debt?