Death Watch Interest Check

[Apollyon]

As the Mandalorian Clans have scattered and begin to struggle over power, I figured NOW would be the best time to fish the waters and see if anyone would be down to play not a noble warrior who sought to unify the clans but an outcast with a single purpose, to destroy the Clans and build a new society from their ashes. The only sect of people who would be ruthless and cruel enough to do such a thing would be the Death Watch, the Mandalorians most hated enemy. What I had in mind was the slow unification of various Death Watch sects to accomplish this mission, characters who sign up as founding members could be the leaders of major cells that unified under the character I am devising currently to accomplish this goal. I am still planning the key points on various things but I figured I would toss the idea out there and see what people thought. Anyone interested in playing the darker side of Mandalorian culture?

 

[Jaime]

I have always had a fascination with the Death Watch story arcs and their overall purpose in the EU and Star Wars itself. And I've not created a Mando yet so... yeah, I'm definitely interested (:

 

[jp5125]

I agree. I would definitely be interested in making a character that is in the death watch. I've had some ideas in the works for a mando but a death watch member would be even better. I could do even more character development wise if I had the chance to make my character a leader of a cell. Count me in.

 

[Apollyon]

That's two, I think I need one more to complete the interest check then I will sit down and start planning things out with whoever signs up.

 

[Arisalin]

I'm definitely interested.

 

[Apollyon]

Alright, my skype is [email protected]
If you guys are interested add me there and we can start planning stuff. I think I have a suitable world for a base and such in the works I just want to include those signing up for the faction or interested in joining it into the making of the faction.

 

[Silver Cutlass]

OOC, I support the resurgence of Death Watch. I imagine yall will have many fun opportunities.
ICly, chances are Death Watch and Clan Skirata may clash, so I look forward to possible interactions with yall :D

 

[Livgardist]

Could you give those of us not in the know a tiny bit of an idea of what the purpose and goal of the Death Watch are? I don't know much about them other than that they're extremists (in Mandalorian culture) and that Mandalorians don't like them.

I could look at Wokieepedia, but it's much easier to get a summary here. :CSly

I'm interested, but I don't have a character right now. That said, I do have Verus Fett and his son on Zonju V. They won't join outright (though they will possibly join OOC) but I'm sure I can devise a mindset and motivation for them to sympathize with the Death Watch if I like what I see. :CScool

 

[Chairdor]

From what I've seen, the basic gist of the DeathWatch is they want to rebuild the Mandos from the ashes. So lots of killing, bombing, and mass murder

 

[Livgardist]

Oh. I guess that'll be hard for Verus to see eye to eye with, no matter how much I wrap it in fancy words. :CSly XD

 

[Ten10dix]

My understanding is that the Death Watch wanted to reclaim their former glory by killing loads of people and stuff. They wish to be like the Mandalorians of old and fight for the sake of fighting, or something to that effect.

Pretty much extreme Mandalorians, more bloodthirsty and stuff. This is just from what I've gathered from time on Wookiepedia, so someone feel free to come in and stomp on all of this xD.

 

[Fine Frenzy]

No, you've got the gist of it. I'll be interested to see how Justified puts an interesting twist on this. Just being crazy and extremist can get boring sometimes, you know?

 

[Sisk_Renelo]

Ah, my time to shine. *Cracks knuckles* The Death Watch was a splinter sect of Mandalorians formed in Opposition to Jango Fetts adoptive father, Jaster Mereel. Jaster was pushing not only for unification of the clans, but for peace with the galaxy on the whole. To further this, he wrote the super commando codex, which was vehemently opposed by Tor Viszla. Viszla was pushing for a return to the Mandalorian ways of old, that of raiders, and savages, constantly striving to prove themselves through warfare, preparing for a second war for Mandalorian domination of the galaxy.The war between the Watch and Jaster's True Mandalorians raged for years, until Viszla laid a trap, using the Jedi master Count Dooku to destroy most of the True Mandalorians at Galidraan.

After the Mandalorian Protectors were formed in response to the Clone Wars, the Watch went into hiding again, resurfacing occasionally to perform acts of terrorism against the galaxy and the True Mandalorians. Mand'alor the Resurrector invited many of the Watch to join the Protectors, but this backfired when the Protectors overthrew Mandalore's status as neutral and joined the CIS.

The Watch are hated, seen as traitors, thugs, and criminals, with their desire to return to the old ways, those ways used by the Mandalorian Crusaders, used as evidence of their divergence.

The watch wants nothing more than to destroy the True Mandalorians, and bring the galaxy back to war.

Now all that being said, I understand the want for the Watch, but with several clans pushing for a return to the way of the Crusaders, in the name of preservation, I don't really understand the need. While the clans who push for the old ways don't carry the watch name, they're watch in goals and personality, because the only Mandos that hate other Mandos and want to destroy them, outside of personal insults, regardless of background, are the Watch.

Edit: to clarify, The war the Mandalorians fought against the GA was not fought like the Crusaders. There were rules, and honor involved. The Crusaders didn't mind nuking a city to kill one person. That's what the Watch wants to bring back, but to get it, they have to kill every true Mandalorian. Jaster pushed for an honorable Mandalorian State, where prejudices were put aside, because they were all Mandalorians. It's why groups such as the Mandalorian Knights were accepted. I really don't get the whole "blind hatred toward every Force User" thing the majority of Mandos have going on. After all, it's the actions that show a person's true colors, not the gifts they were born with. Any true Mando should know that. Cin vhetin exists for a reason.

 

[Chairdor]

Any true Mando should know that. Cin vhetin exists for a reason.

I think you said it best yourself then, apparently those True Mandos have to die

 

[Mistress]

I had a character for this, but was told it wasn't permitted because so many people use the Death Watch in their back stories that were there an actual group, new characters would then be obligated to ask permission before posting their back stories. I actually thought it contradictory to what we all do. I never asked for permission to post back stories about any other faction for any of my characters.

I like the idea. I lost my profile on that character but would be interested in recreating him. I would probably create him just to enjoy watching him die..

 

[Sisk_Renelo]

I think you said it best yourself then, apparently those True Mandos have to die

Yeah, it's pretty stupid. Anyone who claims to be a true Mando and says they follow the Codex should follow the damn Codex and not warp its words to fit their own ideas. The Codex was written with the precise goal of getting rid of the old ways. You can't have one with the other, they're mutually exclusive.

Also, I'll have a character written for this soon, A'den. Just gotta get it finished.

 

[Ender]

As will I. Just have to update him with the new info.

 

[Kiro]

The original goal for the Death Watch was to create a Mandalorian Empire, to conquer the galaxy by any means necessary, but was a thinly veiled excuse for murderers and thugs to do whatever the hell they wanted.

But consider that that the Mandalorians under Corden Vencu did conquer the galaxy (so to speak). They smashed the biggest power block in the galaxy. They unified all the Clans under one banner. And what happened? Their Mand'alor gets killed. The Clans all suffer horribly during the decade of intra- and inter-clan fighting. They are reduced to individual clans in various states, all just struggling to survive, while surrounded by a massive, angry, power-hungry, expansionist Imperium. Their main collective source of income and means of arming themselves packs up and gets the hell out of Mandalorian space.

Why would any Mandalorian want the Watch to come back and cause all that to happen again?

 

[Apollyon]

I think everyone needs to chill out and wait for me and the folks who signed up to finish designing the faction. Let me remind you that Canon =\= SWRP as far as factions go, the Sith are proof of that. Just like any other faction they are capable of evolving, will the overall goal remain the same, very likely, will they be the thick headed faction that were trigger happy and randomly destructive, probably not. The faction we are designing holds a lot of similarities to the canon Watch but also a lot of differences, so hold your opinions until the final product is released thanks :)

 

[Fine Frenzy]

I have to agree with Kiro here. Nevertheless, good luck Justified.

Jaster pushed for an honorable Mandalorian State, where prejudices were put aside, because they were all Mandalorians. It's why groups such as the Mandalorian Knights were accepted.

> Jaster's Supercommando Code issued in 60 BBY.

> The Mandalorian Wars, and the Mandalorian Knights along with them, were around circa 1375 BBY through 1360 BBY.

Sorry Sisk, something issued 1300 years in the future couldn't have had an effect on the Mandalorian Knights. You should look into this stuff before making such wild claims.

I really don't get the whole "blind hatred toward every Force User" thing the majority of Mandos have going on.

It's for the same reason Cassa's character TP is cautious of the Jedi. He's been hurt by them before. Even still, as a whole he doesn't like them, but if one comes along and proves himself then he'll accept them. Couldn't the same be said for most Mandalorians?

Also, it isn't just blind hate. The Mandalorians aren't jealous of force users. They've foiled their war efforts, they've manipulated them. Sisk where have you been?