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Why are the grenades the size of solfballs now?
 

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All this talk about the Beta is really making me upset. My xbox got the red ring of death the day before the beta came out :CCry1: anyone got an xbox I can borrow? lol
 

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Lol, I just never saw a reason to use it when the pistol and the br both had faster kill rates. And why the **** would you use the asr in Halo CE? The pistol killed people in three shots. XP. The smg does more damage in halo 3 and can be dual wielded. The asr has no redeeming feature unless you fire it in perfect bursts for the bonus headshot damage that only exists on the first shot. XP. ASR has horribly shot range to do efficient damage, and any br user or pistol user will simply walk backwards if you're dumb enough to rush them. And if it comes down to melee, you always lose.

Its probably why mlg players refuse to wield them, and everyone with high kill levels stays with the br/ pistol.

Because the AR is the starting weapon in Halo 1?

And also, I would always take out the BR player who got in close while I was using the AR. It does great damage close and medium. And I don't know why you say it sucks with melee, because all you have to do is sqeeze the trigger for like two seconds then bash for win. Also, MLG players don't use a lot of weapons, not because they're too weak, but because they take no skill, aka they're cheap.

Edit: Also, I forgot to mention, the SMG does not do more damage than the AR unless it is dual-wielded, and that's with super short range and crazy recoil.
 
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Other then listening to one guy constantly bitch about it, I found no real problems with the Beta. I only play in a party with friends, so I am spared the chatter of others when I play.

I love the Jetpack and an furious I can never find the shotgun...
 

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Because the AR is the starting weapon in Halo 1?

And also, I would always take out the BR player who got in close while I was using the AR. It does great damage close and medium. And I don't know why you say it sucks with melee, because all you have to do is sqeeze the trigger for like two seconds then bash for win. Also, MLG players don't use a lot of weapons, not because they're too weak, but because they take no skill, aka they're cheap.

Edit: Also, I forgot to mention, the SMG does not do more damage than the AR unless it is dual-wielded, and that's with super short range and crazy recoil.

At close range the smg's rate of fire and only being somewhere like 3 damage points lower makes it have a higher damage rate at close range. The fact that it dual wieldeable as well makes it an all around better weapon imo.

By the melee sucking, I meant that when both players melee at about the same time, The BR user is guaranteed a win, unless they suck.

I guess its all just preferrence, I tend to prefer skill weapons over sprayer weapons, and others dont. :/
 

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At close range the smg's rate of fire and only being somewhere like 3 damage points lower makes it have a higher damage rate at close range. The fact that it dual wieldeable as well makes it an all around better weapon imo.

By the melee sucking, I meant that when both players melee at about the same time, The BR user is guaranteed a win, unless they suck.

I guess its all just preferrence, I tend to prefer skill weapons over sprayer weapons, and others dont. :/

1) Well that makes sense since the SMG is built for CQC. But as everyone knows recoil and short range make it piss poor even bursting for medium range with dual wielding on amplifying the issues. Assault rifle is a jack of all trades weapon and remains my favorite Halo weapon.

2) I've never seen any weapon being preferred in a melee unless it is a hammer or sword.

3) AR is definitely a skill weapon.
 

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1) Well that makes sense since the SMG is built for CQC. But as everyone knows recoil and short range make it piss poor even bursting for medium range with dual wielding on amplifying the issues. Assault rifle is a jack of all trades weapon and remains my favorite Halo weapon.

2) I've never seen any weapon being preferred in a melee unless it is a hammer or sword.

3) AR is definitely a skill weapon.

1) I know, but smg-plasma eats an opponents at close range,(That sure as hell is not a skill using combo though.) I would never use any dual wield able weapons except plasma rifle normal pistol at any sort of distance.

3)Skill weapons are only denoted by being weapons that do more damage via headshot. My favourite weapon is a spiker, I find it to be one of the most usefull all purpose guns in the game, regardless, Id never call it a skill weapon because no boosted headshot damage and it fires at full auto. "Skill" weapons are br, carbine,sniper -_-(though the auto-aim on that shit in halo 3 was bad, and in halo 2 it was just plain silly.) and the pistol technically. Needler randomly has a ****ed up boosted crit damage that ended up sometimes doing one shot kills. [Halo 3](If someone knows more about this any sort of explanation would be helpful) And as I've said, the BR was the main all purpose weapon for me. Melee shot, grenade shot, and if you're a douchebag; excellent for kill stealing.

2) The melee itself isnt whats actually better, its the direct moments after 2 payers melee eachother or one just melee's the other. Oh, how does everyone feel about the slight gimp swords got in reach?
 
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At close range the smg's rate of fire and only being somewhere like 3 damage points lower makes it have a higher damage rate at close range. The fact that it dual wieldeable as well makes it an all around better weapon imo.

By the melee sucking, I meant that when both players melee at about the same time, The BR user is guaranteed a win, unless they suck.

I guess its all just preferrence, I tend to prefer skill weapons over sprayer weapons, and others dont. :/
Wait, how do you consider the SMG the better weapon, if you just ragged on the AR for its range? Dual-wield a couple SMGs and charge someone, they have a better chance of getting away than if you were using the AR.
 

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Wait, how do you consider the SMG the better weapon, if you just ragged on the AR for its range? Dual-wield a couple SMGs and charge someone, they have a better chance of getting away than if you were using the AR.

Dual wield capability. If im out of smg range, Id use the BR, not the asr. Or a pistol. XP. And its not even the asr's range that is the biggest problem, its damage output and usefulness in multiple situations has always seemed very poor to me.
 

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WTF does XP mean? And what level are you in halo 3?
 

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Seriously, why can't this franchise just die already...
 

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Seriously, why can't this franchise just die already...

There are other franchises that are longer then the Halo franchise. Go rag/troll/complain about those ones if you feel you must.
 

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There are other franchises that are longer then the Halo franchise. Go rag/troll/complain about those ones if you feel you must.
Your logic makes no sense.

Age doesn't equate poor quality. At this point they're simply making Halo games because they sell.
 

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Your logic makes no sense.

Age doesn't equate poor quality. At this point they're simply making Halo games because they sell.

Same could be said about the Call of Duty series, all the EA Sports game series, the Final Fantasy series, the Dragon Ball fighting games and several others that seem to come out so fast.
 

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Same could be said about the Call of Duty series, all the EA Sports game series, the Final Fantasy series, the Dragon Ball fighting games and several others that seem to come out so fast.

and that is all true and if you had seen allot of people do crack down on final fantasy and Call of duty in their respective threads (no dragonball or ea sports thread here though). Point being?
 

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Dual wield capability. If im out of smg range, Id use the BR, not the asr. Or a pistol. XP. And its not even the asr's range that is the biggest problem, its damage output and usefulness in multiple situations has always seemed very poor to me.
It's the most balanced weapon in the entire game... I don't mean to be rude, but you really don't seem to know what you're talking about.

Same could be said about the Call of Duty series, all the EA Sports game series, the Final Fantasy series, the Dragon Ball fighting games and several others that seem to come out so fast.
The Final Fantasy games aren't really a series though... They're kind of like a sub-genre of JRPGs.
 
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Same could be said about the Call of Duty series, all the EA Sports game series, the Final Fantasy series, the Dragon Ball fighting games and several others that seem to come out so fast.

And every one of those series deserve to die.

Call of Duty died after MW1

EA Sports games are just rehashes

I hate final fantasy. Although, the commercials with Leona Lewis are pretty good.

Dragon Ball fighting games? Really? Dragonball sucks period.
 
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