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Brandon Rhea

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We aren't conquering, we're blindly accepting what the Galactic Alliance doesn't care to lose. We cheer and think we're getting the better end of the deal and they laugh behind our backs because we're foolish enough to think we got something significant.

It would be really awesome if you would stop assuming things like this. We've already had people lately who just made stuff up about other factions and got people to believe it as gospel, so I'd appreciate it if we didn't have to deal with this sort of thing again. Thanks.
 

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The Mandalorians are getting these planets exactly as it's specified here, no more no less.

The Alliance would maintain equal and unrestricted access to the worlds, but the Mandalorians would govern themselves, free from Alliance interference, and they would have a safe place to live.

Johnny knows this is what I meant and this is probably just a wording fluke on one of our parts. I need to go to school so if there's any more probs with clarification, I'll talk to Johnny and Bac when I'm back
 
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I can still understand Bac's claims against Mandos on Endor for historical significance.

Corden we would be conquering three worlds in wild space outside Alliance rule.
 

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For the record, I'm not against Mandos on Endor. I was against full Mando ownership of Endor due to its historical significance to the Alliance and the Jedi. I offered Endor as a place for the Mandos to settle, but not to own.

I clarified this question of ownership with Prancing, and the Alliance will still own all of these planets. The Mandalorians, however, will have autonomy within their territories on those planets. Those were the terms of the treaty signed by Jhon Cordatus and Mandalore the Indomitable, terms that did not make the Mandos give anything to the Alliance in return I might add.
 

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As Matt put it, Johnny is our Mandalore and his word is law. While he has not been a Mandalore near as long as me or Matt have, we should still just go through with his plan and stop plotting behind his back on how he's gonna eff us over. We will never, ever get anywhere with those sort of things, no matter the IC or OOC reasonings for them unless the current Mandalore is like a Syn. Voice your opinions and thoughts if needed, but we shouldn't constantly question our leadership everytime a major decision is made, mainly because I see it as Faction Leaders do these things for the betterment of the Faction as a whole instead just for them.
 

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As Matt put it, Johnny is our Mandalore and his word is law. While he has not been a Mandalore near as long as me or Matt have, we should still just go through with his plan and stop plotting behind his back on how he's gonna eff us over. We will never, ever get anywhere with those sort of things, no matter the IC or OOC reasonings for them unless the current Mandalore is like a Syn. Voice your opinions and thoughts if needed, but we shouldn't constantly question our leadership everytime a major decision is made, mainly because I see it as Faction Leaders do these things for the betterment of the Faction as a whole instead just for them.

Not everyone agrees that the leader's decision is for the best, simple as that.
 

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Not everyone agrees that the leader's decision is for the best, simple as that.

Well, that's obvious. And it should also be obvious that majority of the time if the leader makes a decision, it's for the best. But it does not help when people are plotting behind their back because of it like Corden seems to be doing here.
 

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Well, that's obvious. And it should also be obvious that majority of the time if the leader makes a decision, it's for the best. But it does not help when people are plotting behind their back because of it like Corden seems to be doing here.

Honestly? I'm not sure what to think of your response. People are going to have their opinions on how things should be ran. If they want to go ahead and execute their own plans, stop them in a legitimate fashion.

Also, stop playing out that every FL's decision is fantastic to everyone. That gets old quickly. Some will like it, some will not. Some people liked yours, some didn't.
 

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Honestly? I'm not sure what to think of your response. People are going to have their opinions on how things should be ran. If they want to go ahead and execute their own plans, stop them in a legitimate fashion.

Also, stop playing out that every FL's decision is fantastic to everyone. That gets old quickly. Some will like it, some will not. Some people liked yours, some didn't.

At least I am trying to help out.

But whatever, this faction has had quite a few problems with it even when I was leading them, IC and OOC, and I am just trying to make sure no more huge ones get added.
 

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At least I am trying to help out.

But whatever, this faction has had quite a few problems with it even when I was leading them, IC and OOC, and I am just trying to make sure no more huge ones get added.

Trying to help out by telling other members to stop what they're doing OOCly doesn't do anything.

Of course it has, it's always had mixed interests in terms of who wants to lead and what they want done. Let things play their course, after all, it's only two Mandalorians.
 

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Of course it has, it's always had mixed interests in terms of who wants to lead and what they want done. Let things play their course, after all, it's only two Mandalorians.

I'd agree with you if the A'lore and a Fanatic General were not involved in it, but so far only one post has been made by him. So I'm gonna reserve my judgment on him until more is done.
 
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I'd agree with you if the A'lore and a Fanatic General were not involved in it, but so far only one post has been made by him. So I'm gonna reserve my judgment on him until more is done.

Okay, so they can do some damage.

Do something about it.
 

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Phil, get over what people are doing ICly. At this point, you're complaining just for the sake of complaining. Stop crying about decisions people wanna make with their chars. It's within their rights, just as it is within Johnny's rights to implement what he wishes (something you have pointed out multiple times now). I'm not trying to instigate anything, but I'm not liking the bickering I'm seeing here and the fact that you're going out of your way to pull up and criticize rps. Corden and Mars aren't even a part of this discussion anymore and yet here you are whining about them behind their backs. Just drop it already.
 

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Feel free to have Roxton step to Corden.

Oh...wait a second....
 

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Feel free to have Roxton step to Corden.

Oh...wait a second....

You're gonna have to try harder then that to get under my skin.

I'm just tired of the bickering I see when a decision is made by the Mandalore in this timeline, and it's not swaying me on that.

So before I say anything else, I'll see where the threads go. So good day.
 

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alright I come back to check for a few minutes and shit has hit the proverbial fan once again.

Cordon I don't know what your boner for Roon is but we aren't losing it.
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Roon will most likely still be held with Mandalorian influence per Yawning's ruling.

Next we are losing several small none useful bases like the one on hoth For example, and moving those personnel supplies to Three 100% under our control planets as in we don't share we have full resources, and control. Meaning the Refuges will actually have room and a place to call home not Shanty towns in territory lent to us.

Tell me how is this negative in the long run for us? Hell we can even still keep our small territory allotted us by GA for bases though what good are spread out planetary outpost going to really do in mixed areas of GA space?

Next Mars yes you're the Second and I get you would be upset you weren't told and I would be upset to but stop ridding Cordens coat tails and look at it objectively gaining three full planets losing several insignificant Shanty towns and outposts.

The thing with the Chiss are still in talks its up to the FL's how the later half of the talks and the direction the Chiss and Mandalorian War go.

Lastly Corden stop your We mandalorians we don't give a fly **** attitude this is a RP site ran in collaboration by many different users co-operation with other users usually makes a better story in the long run. I know that's like me calling a kettle black when I can't stand any of your suggestions because I find you to be a massive prick that needs a leash to stop your constant grabs for every bit of power you can get. But calling foul anytime someone doesn't go with what you say or pitch a fit when agreements are reached for the RP in general by the FL's, and ADMINS is getting ridiculously old, Stop and read and double check before flying off the handle there is nothing bad with this move and gives us what you want Indefricken dependence from the GA our current holdings are essentially leases. Or were you hoping once all the bases were done being built you would challenge Johny hopefully win and then launch surprise attacks against the GA from them, and then pledge allegiance to the Sith to fight the Jedi?
No where does it state the Mandalorians would lose anything significant and we gain three planets. Would we lose planets people actually RPed to acquire I don't think so people put time in them its the missions not yet complete that will probably be abandoned.

Edit: Also saw your tactical assessment of Roon Corden its not that great two ways in all the Imperium has to do is sit at the entrances, or one of the safe zones and blockade the planet we would essentially starve and be cut off from the rest of the galaxy rendering a vast majority of the faction moot and useless. Seriously for a military guy tactics clearly isn't your strong suit.
 
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alright I come back to check for a few minutes and shit has hit the proverbial fan once again.

Cordon I don't know what your boner for Roon is but we aren't losing it.


Next we are losing several small none useful bases like the one on hoth For example, and moving those personnel supplies to Three 100% under our control planets as in we don't share we have full resources, and control. Meaning the Refuges will actually have room and a place to call home not Shanty towns in territory lent to us.

Tell me how is this negative in the long run for us? Hell we can even still keep our small territory allotted us by GA for bases though what good are spread out planetary outpost going to really do in mixed areas of GA space?

Next Mars yes you're the Second and I get you would be upset you weren't told and I would be upset to but stop ridding Cordens coat tails and look at it objectively gaining three full planets losing several insignificant Shanty towns and outposts.

The thing with the Chiss are still in talks its up to the FL's how the later half of the talks and the direction the Chiss and Mandalorian War go.

Lastly Corden stop your We mandalorians we don't give a fly **** attitude this is a RP site ran in collaboration by many different users co-operation with other users usually makes a better story in the long run. I know that's like me calling a kettle black when I can't stand any of your suggestions because I find you to be a massive prick that needs a leash to stop your constant grabs for every bit of power you can get. But calling foul anytime someone doesn't go with what you say or pitch a fit when agreements are reached for the RP in general by the FL's, and ADMINS is getting ridiculously old, Stop and read and double check before flying off the handle there is nothing bad with this move and gives us what you want Indefricken dependence from the GA our current holdings are essentially leases. Or were you hoping once all the bases were done being built you would challenge Johny hopefully win and then launch surprise attacks against the GA from them, and then pledge allegiance to the Sith to fight the Jedi?
No where does it state the Mandalorians would lose anything significant and we gain three planets. Would we lose planets people actually RPed to acquire I don't think so people put time in them its the missions not yet complete that will probably be abandoned.

Edit: Also saw your tactical assessment of Roon Corden its not that great two ways in all the Imperium has to do is sit at the entrances, or one of the safe zones and blockade the planet we would essentially starve and be cut off from the rest of the galaxy rendering a vast majority of the faction moot and useless. Seriously for a military guy tactics clearly isn't your strong suit.

Listen up tough guy, we're leaving, you won't need to worry about us soon.

Chill out.
 

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Next we are losing several small none useful bases like the one on hoth For example, and moving those personnel supplies to Three 100% under our control planets as in we don't share we have full resources, and control. Meaning the Refuges will actually have room and a place to call home not Shanty towns in territory lent to us.

I clarified this question of ownership with Prancing, and the Alliance will still own all of these planets. The Mandalorians, however, will have autonomy within their territories on those planets. Those were the terms of the treaty signed by Jhon Cordatus and Mandalore the Indomitable, terms that did not make the Mandos give anything to the Alliance in return I might add.

This means that any Alliance military bases will remain, and any Mandalorian civilizations that come up on planets with existing Alliance settlements will either have to co-exist or be built several miles away.

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