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What are we allowed to use? Is there any restrictions. I have a character I am thinking of doing later, but I wanted to use a light-scythe. Is this allowed?
 

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Light scythe? Err... you can use all the regular lightsaber variants that've been shown so far in Canon Star Wars, and perhaps also lightwhips (though I'm not terribly sure. I'd have to ask @Brandon Rhea, @Green Ranger, or someone like that about lightwhips.

I don't think a light-scythe would work, because I have honestly no idea how you'd even be able to generate that blade from a projected stream of plasma.
 

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@Kiro Well, you technically could. It has to do with magnetization areas and the fact that lightsabers are believed to be made of plasma. If anything, the lightwhip is less possible due to the gravity effects that makes it a whip.
 

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@Kiro Well, you technically could. It has to do with magnetization areas and the fact that lightsabers are believed to be made of plasma. If anything, the lightwhip is less possible due to the gravity effects that makes it a whip.

Actually, no. Lightwhips are entirely plausible because they contain a metallic core, shielded from the actual plasma field, but generates the plasma around the shielded core, which allows the weapon to act like a whip.

As for a scythe, I have no idea how you'd create a curved plasma blade like that, without using a technique similar to the whip. Nevermind the fact that it'd be terribly unwieldy and almost more dangerous for you. There's a reason the scythe (if you're talking about actual, two-handed, scythes and not the itty bitty kama of the Far East) never became a poular melee weapon for the various medieval armies about the world. It's big, it's clunky, it's unwieldy, and can only really do one thing: big, swinging, slash attacks that any other polearm would do better.

You'd be far better off with a long-handle saber or a lightsaber pike.
 

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Anything is possible if you have the willingness to work on it. Curved lightsabers were discussed in a previous thread and the consensus was they were possible, but serving no additional benefits. But that just means there's no additional drawbacks either. So if you'd like to make a curved lightsaber go for it, just know it's not going to have superior cutting power to a straight saber. As for the scythe, I'd suggest making a tech writeup for it maybe? I'm not sure if you need to for individual pieces of tech. Getting a good visual in your head works well, like for example the Deathscythe's gundam from gundam wing.

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And remember that you'll need to work harder explaining your attacks or actions with this saber. As well as acknowledging the flaws of the scythes design, such as its long hilt that can be struck for damage, or it's restricted angles of attack.
 

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Anything is possible if you have the willingness to work on it. Curved lightsabers were discussed in a previous thread and the consensus was they were possible, but serving no additional benefits. But that just means there's no additional drawbacks either. So if you'd like to make a curved lightsaber go for it, just know it's not going to have superior cutting power to a straight saber. As for the scythe, I'd suggest making a tech writeup for it maybe? I'm not sure if you need to for individual pieces of tech. Getting a good visual in your head works well, like for example the Deathscythe's gundam from gundam wing.

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And remember that you'll need to work harder explaining your attacks or actions with this saber. As well as acknowledging the flaws of the scythes design, such as its long hilt that can be struck for damage, or it's restricted angles of attack.

By "curved lightsabers" I assume you mean lightsabers with a curved plasma blade. Not lightsabers with a curved hilt like Count Dooku's, as that's their canon name. Curved lightsaber. Completely different thing.

And yes, Crow makes an excellent point. There would be no benefits for having a scythe-style blade. As far as I can see, only drawbacks compared to the other styles. As you eliminate the lightsabers' greatest advantage: Their mobility, as you need a huge, specialized, two handed grip to wield it, so it'd be slow and unwieldy, as I said before, meaning that regular sabers will have a lot of openings against you, nor can you make thrusting attacks with it.

Secondly, because of the way the blade would be shaped and angled from the emitter array, parrying blasters bolts or other lightsabers with the blade would be damn near impossible.

TL;DR Version; It's possible, sorta, but the weapon will have a ton of drawbacks compared to most of the canon lightsaber variants.
 

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I mean, it could be like a war scythe. Which would basically just make it a lightsaber pike with a curved blade.

But apparently nobody likes historical polearms around here except me.

EDIT: Also, the Darksaber does have a curved blade (curved on the outside 'edge', straight on the back, but still), so theoretically a curved blade like one for a war scythe could be made.

It'd be a goofy weapon but it's not impossible. It's just a special snowflake.
 

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It'd be a goofy weapon but it's not impossible. It's just a special snowflake.
That's pretty much what I said.

And to be fair, Elijah, I knew of the war-scythe, but I don't think that's what @argutator had in mind, as I tend to classify a war scythe as a regular polearm like a long spear, pike, or a halberd (which I did mention in my previous posts, and would be pretty much identical to a lightsaber pike in function, and superior to what I assume he had in mind).

He did specifically state light-scythe, so I think of this compared to this, which would be a rather standard lightsaber pike, even if you gave it a curved edge like the Darksaber.
 

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The thing to keep in mind when picking weapons like this are the angles of attack. Your limited to side-thrusts and a standard thrusting attack, but just angling your handle off-center to hit them with the saber blade. You won't be able to block well with this weapon either, so I would focus on a style of speed and offensive capabilities rather then wasting time on defense. No soresu scythe twirling here. Most likely, if you're serious to do this, I'd suggest ataru or niman for your style. That way you can sure up your shortcomings with martial arts or force techniques.
 

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The thing to keep in mind when picking weapons like this are the angles of attack. Your limited to side-thrusts and a standard thrusting attack, but just angling your handle off-center to hit them with the saber blade. You won't be able to block well with this weapon either, so I would focus on a style of speed and offensive capabilities rather then wasting time on defense. No soresu scythe twirling here. Most likely, if you're serious to do this, I'd suggest ataru or niman for your style. That way you can sure up your shortcomings with martial arts or force techniques.

Soresu? Twirling? Errr. Okay then.

Also, more to the point? Forms mean bugger all. Seriously. They're at best fluff pieces, but they don't really mean anything on this site, as it's all about writing styles and being able to out-think your opponent, like chess, rather than being all "zomg master of Ataru" (and even if it was, Niman and Ataru (which sucks in general) would be my last choices for this. If I had to pick a Form, I'd probably go with shii-cho. Weapons like this, you rely on range and speed, not doing fancy BS.

Even in Shaolin Kung Fu, in genuine martial combat rather than display performances that most see, you rely on simple and quick moves. Not the fancy schmancy shit they show in movies and during performances, because not even the most durable martial artist could keep that up for long, nevermind the fact that you leave yourself open to several attacks with most moves displayed in Shaolin Kung Fu, on which Ataru is loosely based on.
 

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Hey, I know I may sound like a darn 7 year old for this, but I wanted to have my character have a crossguard lightsaber. Is that currently allowable?
 

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Hey, I know I may sound like a darn 7 year old for this, but I wanted to have my character have a crossguard lightsaber. Is that currently allowable?
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Currently the Wrist Mounted Lightsaber is a usable weapon.
That lightsaber reminds me Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much of Meryll from the walking dead.

On a more on topic note, I would say that it's a good idea. Though i think the name "Lightsaber Gauntlet" would be a better name.
 
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