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because its a silly question, of course their allowed, they are canon. So no one needs to worry. if lightwhips are allowed, of course double blades will be.


Its not really that silly of a question when they werent allowed 20 years ago rp wise. Neither were light whips for that matter.

I would've liked to see the sabers have to act like they are supposed to for this time line. Though for balance wise, it makes sense for them to have limitless battery I suppose.
 

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Well, technically they have a limited battery, its just a very long lasting one. Only needs to be charged very seldom (I know that sentence may not have been proper grammar, but oh well.)
 

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Its not really that silly of a question when they werent allowed 20 years ago rp wise. Neither were light whips for that matter.

I would've liked to see the sabers have to act like they are supposed to for this time line. Though for balance wise, it makes sense for them to have limitless battery I suppose.

why weren't they allowed then? I mean they are pretty well known and accepted in the universe. Darth Bane fought a user at the academy and even he was pretty unimpressed. and its a simple concept. admitedly they aren't really that useful since anyone who's had a chance to play with one realizes your more likely to cut your own bits off than our enemies. Also you can't use a standard style when using a double-blade. you have to use the double blade technique. and they are kinda silly. especially when just hold two blades is more practically sound. but all it really is is two blades celotaped together in the middle.
 

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You can use all lightsaber styles with a double bladed lightsaber. One person even did Soresu. Maul used Juyo, and I've utilized Ataru. It isn't as restrictive as you make it out to be. Also if someone is actually good with the staff, they aren't going to "cut their own bits off." Technically, wielding two lightsabers is less defensive than this style.

Two Lightsabers: Offense
One Lightsaber: Balance
Double-Bladed Lightsaber: Defense

The reason being is that wielding two does not allow you to put your full force into a strike and that someone who is power swinging can just batter away at your defenses. Unless your strength in one arm is comparable to the strength of another guy in two arms than they can just knock both lightsabers from your hands with two-handed strikes.

Double-Bladed Lightsabers are much better than you or anyone really makes them out to be.

I may even go on a solo mission to reconstruct my lightsaber as a double bladed lightsaber. Darth Zannah utilized the double blade with Soresu and her defenses were near impenetrable. She utilized it to defend against attacks effortlessly and expended very little energy.
 
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The reason being is that wielding two does not allow you to put your full force into a strike and that someone who is power swinging can just batter away at your defenses. Unless your strength in one arm is comparable to the strength of another guy in two arms than they can just knock both lightsabers from your hands with two-handed strikes.

Never done anything similar to real sword fighting then eh?

Regardless, I agree that double bladed are pretty good. I just mostly didnt think that they existed yet. :/ I dont have anything to base it off yet either though, because itd still be proto saber times in canon.
 

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Never done anything similar to real sword fighting then eh?

No I actually have. It is a real weakness that two handed users, like myself, have to over come. It is hard to put your full force into a on handed swing. It is hard to block a two handed strike when you only have one sword available to block. They have even stated this on Wookieepedia to be a true weakness that you have to get over.
 

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No I actually have. It is a real weakness that two handed users, like myself, have to over come. It is hard to put your full force into a on handed swing. It is hard to block a two handed strike when you only have one sword available to block. They have even stated this on Wookieepedia to be a true weakness that you have to get over.

What swordfighting do you study again?
 

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Classic Katana, except my two are short and wooden. Master won't let me have two real ones. He did put some weight on the blades so they feel quite the same.
 

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Classic Katana, except my two are short and wooden. Master won't let me have two real ones. He did put some weight on the blades so they feel quite the same.

I'm assuming you're talking about Kendo, which is what lightsaber combat is based on, two blades were very rarely used. It was either the katana or the wakazashi. Either way, lightsaber combat is based around one blade, the second blade is largely improved.

Either way, the weapon type doesn't lock you into the combat type. We'll give Darth Maul as an example- you claim the double bladed is defensive, while he hardly knew the meaning of that word.
 

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Double blades in general are actual much more defensive against lightsabers when used right. It is because you generally have a wider range in which you can't be blind sided. Darth Maul was a Juyo practitioner which consists mainly of attacking. However look at Darth Zannah, she could utilize the double bladed lightsaber to its full defensive capabilities. I'm not saying they are locked to specifically that, but they are quite more effective in that specific category than most other things.
 

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No, they're not, and you are speculating.
 

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No I am not, I found this directly off of Wookieepedia. I don't speculate, I get sources.

Saberstaffs were also excellent defensive weapons, as the doubled length of the weapon provided more surface area for deflecting and parrying. Darth Bane's rule of two covered this source. I looked it up even.
 

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also excellent defensive weapons

How does this imply that they are specialized in defense? It only indicates that they were just as good for parrying strikes as dealing them.
 

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I meant specialized in as they were generally better at what they were handling defensive wise. I have noticed a pattern of staffs being better defensive wise and two lightsabers being better offensive wise. It was simply because on the double-bladed lightsaber's page their defense is called excellent. While on the two lightsaber style Jar'Kai they criticize not being able to put all of your weight into it, or something to that allusion. However the single is quite balanced in which it was able to do things that two and double could not. Like power swinging at two lightsabers, and more maneuverable than a double.
 

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No I actually have. It is a real weakness that two handed users, like myself, have to over come. It is hard to put your full force into a on handed swing. It is hard to block a two handed strike when you only have one sword available to block. They have even stated this on Wookieepedia to be a true weakness that you have to get over.

Its actually very easy to block a single blade with two(While using swords). And in a saber fight, if someone honestly put the strength into a slash to knock a saber out of my hand, I could pretty much guarantee he'd be dead a second later.

Maybe if the power striking is applied to someone not using a blade type weapon. But that still shouldn't matter much using an energy blade. (At least Id like to say that. But it seems lightsabers cant cut through a damned thing.)
 

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While it may be easier, it is harder to block the full on strength of a two handed attack with one hand. (Generally, but it does depend on the situation at times.) Also that is your own personal skill, I'm speaking about two people on the same level of skill fighting with a single and two. Lightsabers are like Samurai Jack's sword. It can cut through anything, you just need the strength to do it. Except another lightsaber lol. However it is just like wielding a regular blade except all the weight is in the hilt.
 

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While it may be easier, it is harder to block the full on strength of a two handed attack with one hand. (Generally, but it does depend on the situation at times.) Also that is your own personal skill, I'm speaking about two people on the same level of skill fighting with a single and two. Lightsabers are like Samurai Jack's sword. It can cut through anything, you just need the strength to do it. Except another lightsaber lol. However it is just like wielding a regular blade except all the weight is in the hilt.

It was more of a joke on teh swrps mate. 99.99999999999999% of chars carry around a something that is either immune or resistant to sabers. I know what they're supposed to do, they just never seem to do it. XD
 

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Yeah I have noticed that little cheap detail... Which is why I only plan to have 1 more Jedi and then that is it. 3 is enough... However it is a little cheap that they all got a hold of resistant to lightsaber material. Also Vibroblades are not resistant to lightsabers without CORTOSIS weave. If you don't state that before I cut them in half, you get to lose your vibroblades. I have been nice about vibroblade to lightsaber dueling for a while now, but if you come at me with a vibroblade now you better damn well make sure to tell me it has cortosis in it at least ooc.

Edit: Correction Lightsaber Resistance weave.
 
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I don't so much care about the resistant items...when there is a realistic reason as to why they have them. Most of these oars are rare > thus expensive as hell
 
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