Old Competitors Meet OOC

[TheSilentWind]

Actually the Sluis Van HQ was struck down by Dmitri. You never EVER IC Mentioned a wrist communicator or the use of it to send a warning.

Really? Because from what I see, Weiss stated that the Bogan alarm thingy still stands which basically means that the Bogan using the wrist communicator to send the alarm also is legitimate.

I have no issues with Weiss ruling. I completely agree and I am fine with it @Prudii Kyramud I don't believe any modifications or anything else is required.

 

[Prudence]

By alarm I interpreted him to mean the emotional and mental state. I don't know how you can think that you didn't mention it AT ALL before that last post, but then retroactively say it happened beforehand.

 

[Green Ranger]

The ruling's been made. Either dispute it or move on, but don't sit here going around in circles over it. That's a waste of everyone's time.

 

[Prudence]

The ruling's been made. Either dispute it or move on, but don't sit here going around in circles over it. That's a waste of everyone's time.

That's what I'm attempting to do. I'm asking for clarification on it, as it seems ambiguous about that wrist communicator message.

Sluis Van HQ
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Strati Defense Sytems, an arms manufacturer had contacted Keywork Engineering Systems in order to discuss a meeting between them. They had reserved a business meeting room in Sluis Van in order to negotiate with Keywork Engineering Systems.

The two companies had never had any hostile actions. While there were former competitors in Daedulus, Strati always maintained a friendly setting, and was well known by its customers for being friendly. Some had even stated that it didn’t look like their typical arms store, and that was fine with the owners of Strati Defense Systems.

Samar Zinthoni, a silver Dathomirian Zabrak had contacted KES, and was waiting for them to meet. He would be meeting them at a room that was close to the hangar of Sluis Van HQ. The Zabrak was looking forward to this meeting, and he was looking forward to see what KES could offer to Strati Defense Systems.

He had with him a Taskmaster pistol, an Arakyud Pistol, and a Taskmaster Carbine, a typical armament for billions in the galaxy considering the fact that two of this weapons were made by MandalMotors.

”Please notify me when they arrive.” Samar stated, looking forward to the meeting.

@Prudii Kyramud

A protocol droid so the KES people arrive, and he went to meet them. "He is waiting for you." he stated, bowing at the three KES officials that arrived. As they continued to walk, they were stopped by a Bogan official. "I'm sorry mum but you will have to stay here." he stated, pointing at Mia. Mia had not concealed her force sensitivity. While Jonathan was a force senstiive, he was not trained, and that did not worry the Bogan official.

When the issue was dealt with, the protocol droid led Narasha and Jonathan to the meeting room. "It is an honor to meet you." he stated, bowing at Narasha and Jonathan in order to show respect. "Shall we begin?" he stated, looking forward to her response.

"I am sure they had a good reason. You must understand that Sluis Van is a busy place." he stated, smiling at Narasha. He reached out his hand to shake Narasha, smiling at her. He then smiled at Jonathan.

"Yes, let us begin. I am sure you know we are a small arms manufacture. We wish to cooperate with Keywork Engineering Systems. Strati Defense Systems would like to ask what KES can offer our company." he stated, smiling at Lady Zyra as he awaited his response.

Samar wondered what Narasha meant by minimal manufacturing capabilities. "What do you mean by minimal manufacturing capabilities?" he asked, making sure that his tone was neutral.

"We would like a close partnership with KES but we are also wondering what are your relations with the other people in the galaxy, especially the major factions. It is no secret that there is a war going on and depending on what might happen this might be good or bad for business. " he said, finished speaking.

In these posts, which were his only posts before the post which I reported, he makes 0 mention of a wrist communicator, or a message. However here:

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When Miaa had extended her reach in the force, the Bogan official had sensed it. This had happened before the negotiations had even begun, and he had taken. Firstly, he got his communicator that was on his wrist and he typed it to Sluis Van officials in order to notify them that something was wrong. The code would also go to the Bogan temple in Sluis Van HQ. It would also go to the Bogan fleet in Sluis Van. While he was doing this, he made sure that it did not seem that he was doing anything hostile. Mia seemed focused on what was going on in the meeting so she might have not noticed this. Within seconds, Bogan officials and Sluis Van troops would be arriving, and the hangar troops would be alerted and going to where Mia was in order to arrest her. One also had to not forget that the meeting room was close to the hangar, and since a hangar of a facility was always patrolled due to its significance, the troops would arrive extremely quickly.

Sluis Van had been put on high alert ever since the Bogan had failed to win a complete victory in Fondor. While it was not a complete loss for the Bogan, the Sith were powerful enemies and the Bogan had been on high alert, having increased border patrols, sent more Bogan to reinforce key positions, etc. In fact, Samar himself had even given such orders.

Sluis Van HQ, being a major Bogan asset would be more alert than before. In fact, it would not be idiotic to assume that they had noticed that Mira was there, considering that she was carrying a lightsaber. Therefore, one had to wonder if Mira would even be able to get out of this.

Suddenly there was a message sent before the negotiations? (bolded). Why was there no mention of this before, as if there were, I would have responded to it. Now I am forced into a situation with minimal chances of escape because he made no mention of this. If it is to stay as is and he can retroactively send a message before the negotiations, then I should be able to retroactively move my PC accordingly.

 

[TheSilentWind]

Prudii, it is not my fault that you choose to monitor the meeting when Sluis Van HQ houses a Bogan temple, and is an important Bogan asset. What the Bogan NPC did was totally justified. It is also kind of ironic that you want me to respect an admin ruling, which I have, yet you keep trying to go in circles which is a waste of people's time.

 

[Green Ranger]

Weiss already stated that the action doesn't apply retroactively and that the alert - and mobilization - only begins to occur as of the last post. And if you were worried about chances of escape, then...well I'm just saying, but meeting inside the Bogan temple on Sluis Van probably wasn't a good idea, man.

 

[Prudence]

Prudii, it is not my fault that you choose to monitor the meeting when Sluis Van HQ houses a Bogan temple, and is an important Bogan asset. What the Bogan NPC did was totally justified. It is also kind of ironic that you want me to respect an admin ruling, which I have, yet you keep trying to go in circles which is a waste of people's time.

Silent, I know I chose to monitor the meeting. Your NPC maybe should do that. But you can't just retroactively add shit in. And I'm not going in circles, I felt Dmitri didn't clearly cover that.

 

[Prudence]

Weiss already stated that the action doesn't apply retroactively and that the alert - and mobilization - only begins to occur as of the last post. And if you were worried about chances of escape, then...well I'm just saying, but meeting inside the Bogan temple on Sluis Van probably wasn't a good idea, man.

I thought this was peaceful man. So the alert and mobilization only occurs as of the end of the negotiations?

 

[TheSilentWind]

What the Bogan NPC, and what my character is doing is totally justified. This is IC terms.

I honestly feel like you aren't doing what the OOC thread is about, since you certainly seem to be going around in circles. There is nothing wrong with Weiss' ruling.

 

[Green Ranger]

'The Bogan official's alarm stands. However, even if the Bogan official is able to mask his maneuvers and feelings, it is unlikely that ever guard and worker at the shipyards would be able to employ such strategies as well. Mia would be able to sense such mobilization, though not immediately.'

Seems pretty straightforward to me. Yes, the 'mobilization' only begins as of Silent Wind's latest post, but you're inside a Bogan Temple. So don't expect there to be a lengthy response time, since they're quite literally just down the hall.

 

[Prudence]

With that explanation I am happy to lost. I'll begin drafting my reply! Thanks for the clarification :)

 

[Dmitri]

As a personal recommendation, not as an admin but as a member, I would suggest surrendering. While escape is not impossible, it is somewhat difficult. Surrendering possibly may have the highest chance of survival; whether they choose to accept it is up to them.

Also, Prudii, this is is an unofficial request: cease the usage of NPCs in these meetings. If you don't have a PC capable or willing to represent the Keywork in meetings, you shouldn't be representing them in these threads.

 

[Prudence]

As a personal recommendation, not as an admin but as a member, I would suggest surrendering. While escape is not impossible, it is somewhat difficult. Surrendering possibly may have the highest chance of survival; whether they choose to accept it is up to them.

Also, Prudii, this is is an unofficial request: cease the usage of NPCs in these meetings. If you don't have a PC capable or willing to represent the Keywork in meetings, you shouldn't be representing them in these threads.

I will do my best to do that, or at least to have a stronger PC presence. :)

 

[Dmitri]

I will do my best to do that, or at least to have a stronger PC presence. :)

Do so.

Also, Silent Wind has demonstrated evidence that the shipyards have been on high-alert in prior threads. Thus mobilization of larger forces is acceptable, but the ruling the warning was sent in Wind's last post stands.

 

[Prudence]

Do so.

Also, Silent Wind has demonstrated evidence that the shipyards have been on high-alert in prior threads. Thus mobilization of larger forces is acceptable, but the ruling the warning was sent in Wind's last post stands.

Alrighty! My post is almost ready.

 

[Green Ranger]

Okay, sorry to jump in again, but putting aside the rest of the post for a moment, but Prudii, there is absolutely no way that your PC can get back to the hangar, get into a ship, take off, leave the atmosphere and jump to hyperspace in a single post.

Silent Wind has given me permission to post in this thread, and as I'm the Bogan leader, there's a conflict of interest here so I'm not making an official ruling. However, I don't think you need another admin to come in and tell you how blatantly cheap it is. But just in case it comes to that, I'll tag @Dmitri anyway.

 

[Prudence]

Okay, sorry to jump in again, but putting aside the rest of the post for a moment, but Prudii, there is absolutely no way that your PC can get back to the hangar, get into a ship, take off, leave the atmosphere and jump to hyperspace in a single post.

Silent Wind has given me permission to post in this thread, and as I'm the Bogan leader, there's a conflict of interest here so I'm not making an official ruling. However, I don't think you need another admin to come in and tell you how blatantly cheap it is. But just in case it comes to that, I'll tag @Dmitri anyway.

Nononono I'm not trying to jump to hyperspace in one thread. What I was saying in the notice at the bottom of the thread is this: we were stopped by TSW's NPC. we never specified where. As he specified the room was empty, I specified that it was at the door that would take us from the hangar to a cooridoor leading to the conference room that we were stopped at, leaving her in the hangar itself.

From there she ran to the shuttle, and it lifted off the ground. Her shuttle is still in the hangar as I was waiting for TSW to react before I take it out of the hangar and into space.

 

[Green Ranger]

Right, I misread the hyperspace bit, my bad.

Okay, if that's the case - if you're in the hangar while the rest of the group is way off elsewhere in the conference room, then how do you sense the betrayal? This is a Dark Jedi training facility, after all - it's heavily immersed in the Dark Side of the force. Picking out one precise hostile action against someone you're not even anywhere near seems...odd.

 

[Prudence]

Okay my justification is this: with her perception she would have followed narasha and Jonathon into the room where she would have found Samar. She also would have felt the pricks of alarm and betrayel as thr message the NPC circulated around. She is very very strong with Telepathy.

 

[Green Ranger]

Okay, so I find the idea of being able to pick out two NPCs from a whole facility of thousands of people, especially with no prior knowledge of the layout of said facility, pretty dubious - especially one where Dark Jedi are training, so you know, latent Dark Side energies generally screw with sense powers anyway, pretty dubious. I'll ask @Dmitri to chime in on that. Once I get that resolved I'll be posting.