The Divine OOC

[Green Ranger]

Anything on earth can be found in varying parts of this world, but beyond that involves divine influence. Where what can be found is really up to the resident gods.

 

[Kit]

Just checking here, as it'd be useful to know...

The energy, power, whatever, used to create stuff, like say, the underworld, or a race of minions, or a really big, shiny, funky death-thing, does that ever come back?

Or do our Gods simpyl grow continually weaker, until they just kinda fall apart?

 

[Green Ranger]

The entire concept is that by creating life, a God has sacrifice some of their divinity to allow freedom of thought, procreation and intellectual thought etc. Theoretically, you could create a race that works only when you're commanding them to, but basically it would require your entire undivided attention, and they really wouldn't be that useful. Unfortunately, giving one's divinity away isn't exactly like recieving a wound, but more like giving away a kidney.

 

[Cyril Khan]

except, technically, giving a kidney away is a wound.... and a wound can be healed, but a kidney cannot be restored.

And the Orcs in Lord of The Rings were controlled, but the one who controlled them still remained powerful

 

[Green Ranger]

Orcs are simplistic creatures that have a will, but not a strong one. It took the empowerment of them by Morgoth and then Sauron to do things right. And then when either of them were defeated, they ran for their lives. It's got to do with the fact that they aren't real Children of Illuvatar, just corrupted mockeries, so they've got a bit of independance, but not much, and the require a lot of attention from an Ainur or Maia to do anything other than cower and hide.

 

[Kit]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Grim @ Oct 11 2007, 10:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Orcs are simplistic creatures that have a will, but not a strong one. It took the empowerment of them by Morgoth and then Sauron to do things right. And then when either of them were defeated, they ran for their lives. It's got to do with the fact that they aren't real Children of Illuvatar, just corrupted mockeries, so they've got a bit of independance, but not much, and the require a lot of attention from an Ainur or Maia to do anything other than cower and hide.[/b]

Firstly, WOW, you actually the Silmarillion....? I'm so impressed. I genuinely am. That book just bored me...

Anyhow, another important question!

Acts such as creating, say, an underworld... Would they come under the same sort of power-draining umbrella as creating a race, or demi god?

S'just, the way I saw it, the underworld is something of a renewable energy source. Power goes in, Death god = weak. The dead, their souls etc come in = death god strong! (raar!)

Or is it just that by creating an underworld, I've crippled the God that I have no intention of creating a sentient race with?

 

[Green Ranger]

How's about this - to keep the Underworld in existance, you need to fuel it with the souls of the dead. So it prevents you from having a massive unstoppable force by the end of the first major battle. So even were you to create an army - which I don't see your character doing anyway, but you never know - you would have to bide your time until enough people die in enough numbers soas to make an appropriate force readily available.

 

[Kit]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Grim @ Oct 11 2007, 11:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

How's about this - to keep the Underworld in existance, you need to fuel it with the souls of the dead. So it prevents you from having a massive unstoppable force by the end of the first major battle. So even were you to create an army - which I don't see your character doing anyway, but you never know - you would have to bide your time until enough people die in enough numbers soas to make an appropriate force readily available.[/b]

Excellent. That's pretty much sort of the answer i wanted. And expected. But yeah, gooood.

I'm just going to go and have Death float around and be ominous.

 

[Green Ranger]

Of course we do need either Duncan or Hoorex to post at this point, if not Aaron, Sin and the others gathered, to respond to what Elendur said.

 

[Cailst]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(kupo160 @ Oct 11 2007, 06:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Excellent. That's pretty much sort of the answer i wanted. And expected. But yeah, gooood.

I'm just going to go and have Death float around and be ominous.[/b]

Because of how my race works, we should be allies. For my race the Phoso, since some can live for 200 years, an average female will have about 120 children in a lifetime. To prevent massive overpopulation, only 1 in 40 will make it to puberty which happens at age 40. So that means you should have a lot of souls from my race to power your underworld.

 

[Kit]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(The Inquisitor @ Oct 12 2007, 01:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Because of how my race works, we should be allies. For my race the Phoso, since some can live for 200 years, an average female will have about 120 children in a lifetime. To prevent massive overpopulation, only 1 in 40 will make it to puberty which happens at age 40. So that means you should have a lot of souls from my race to power your underworld.[/b]

Weeell, Ol Death isn't the sort to pick a side, or have favourites. However, your contributions will be welcomed gladly.

Thank you for using Death version 1.1. Your souls are always welcome at any of your donation centers.

 

[Axolotl]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(The Inquisitor @ Oct 12 2007, 12:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Because of how my race works, we should be allies. For my race the Phoso, since some can live for 200 years, an average female will have about 120 children in a lifetime. To prevent massive overpopulation, only 1 in 40 will make it to puberty which happens at age 40. So that means you should have a lot of souls from my race to power your underworld.[/b]

You're really sick for thinking up all that stuff... Maybe it's just me, but it's sick...

 

[Cailst]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(UltraPiggy @ Oct 14 2007, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

You're really sick for thinking up all that stuff... Maybe it's just me, but it's sick...[/b]

I just felt like combining some aspects of social insects with turtles and creating a unique race that has a fairly different times of mortality

 

[Axolotl]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(The Inquisitor @ Oct 15 2007, 12:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

I just felt like combining some aspects of social insects with turtles and creating a unique race that has a fairly different times of mortality[/b]

I still think it's messed up.

 

[Green Ranger]

It's also a relatively balanced idea. The fact that an average of only three offspring that reach an age of reproduction over the span of roughly 130 years (detracting old age and infancy from the average lifespan, which would be about 170-180 if 200 is long life) means that you'll also be a fairly low-number race if hit by any exterior influences of death, like pestilence, famine or casualties from war. It also means you'll be fairly slow to rebuild.

I think it would be interesting to have a creator race based off of an insect model, like a hive mind controlled by a king or queen, or even the god themselves. Mindless slaves are fun.

 

[Ser Gregor]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Grim @ Oct 15 2007, 12:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

I think it would be interesting to have a creator race based off of an insect model, like a hive mind controlled by a king or queen, or even the god themselves. Mindless slaves are fun.[/b]

For the swarm!

 

[Brandon Rhea]

I'm going to pull out of this. Doing this and WW3 would take far too much time and, to be honest, I'd rather do WW3.

 

[Green Ranger]

Because you were so involved in it? :whistle:

Ah, it's pretty much dead now anyway.

 

[Cailst]

Has it been enough time that we could begin the adventures of the beings on the surface of the planet? I'm thinking of sending a force to go colonize the southern shore of Edacin.

 

[OneoftheLost]

I'm with Grim, I think this is pretty much dead. Hell most of this site is pretty dead right now,