The "progression" of dubstep

[Vindictive]

****ing goddamn shit, hollywood! What more are you going to constantly add to your things to **** up?! Dubstep USED to be an underground art, which no one had ever heard of in the states. But now, NOW, it's turned into this fad that rappers and hip hop and pop artists include in their songs because 'it's in style.' Ever since the rise of brostep, which should be properly named shitstep, everyone is into dubstep. And it's not even for the music itself! Ask anyone who claims to listen to dubstep here, and most can't even name an artist beyond Skrillex. They like it because Bitchy Minaj, Usher, and basically EVERY artist now puts a little dubstep in their music.

But it doesn't stop there; it's in commercials now too. In ****ing commercials for clothes and computers and almost anything else you can name. Stick to your shit B-movies and cliche artists to make money, hollywood! Leave good music alone! ****!

Aside from my pointless rant, does anybody share my opinion, object it, etc etc?

EDIT: I mean here as in the states, not the site.

 

[Green Ranger]

I thought it was rubbish to begin with.

 

[Vindictive]

I liked it when it was raw and underground. I listened to it when people thought it was a wierd form of techno. And now everyone gets a hard on just thinking about it. It's irritating.

 

[Green Ranger]

Dubstep makes me feel old. I have to supress the urge to rant about how I don't understand the youth of today.

 

[Empress]

Dubstep makes me feel old. I have to supress the urge to rant about how I don't understand the youth of today.

I feel you.


a certain episode of southpark comes to mind



then again... I liked NIN better when they still toured as an opening act for KMFDM and industrial was new, and trent was on every drug known to man.


but I also think Mozart lost his touch after he composed his requiem




Where is the thing that shows the transition of Mods to modern day hipsters and Nuwavers into modern day emo?......oh thats because they are the same things just slightly different trappings, nothings really original anyway.



this is more to illustrait how it's enevitable that things will catch on and be duplicated or never really be unique anymore, and sometimes that sudden fame can change quality too not always for the better... it's the nature of the beast and nothing will change that.. does not matter if its 2012 or 1712

 

[Shiuzu]

There's been a few instances of artists using dubstep well, it sounds bad when Minaj and Usher use it because they're un-talent towel spunk.

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This is possibly one of my favourite mixes of dub and "normal" song, for lack of a better term, this adds to the song and gives it a bit of depth and attitude, that and adding kendo to anything makes it awesome,

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Heh, this guy is just awesome, this is the opposite, a non-dub guy adding to a dubstep song, now Skrillex isn't the best in dub right now imo so let's go with one of his less popular but better covers,

I couldn't decide so have two,

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And don't forget that if you like dubstep, it's a genre that has about a thousand sub-genres, new artists every day and still plenty of good stuff, I'd suggest checking out Monstercat, UKF still have some good stuff every now and then, but one of my favourites is a "Glitch-Drop" group called Coyote Kisses,

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[Skyway]

I enjoy dub-step, it the waves and beats that I listen to. I can name a few band/people that do dub step other then skillex. It is it own thing and it needs to stay it own thing. I dont mind if "good singer" use it though dont over use it like commercials. Dubstep is good better then it counter part techno. Dont dis Dubstep; A group we need to stop is rap and 99% of rap.

 

[Natise]

I don't care if dubstep is becoming "main stream". I liked it before it got big, and I still like it. Now I did not enjoy every single song before it got big, and I certainly do not enjoy every song it is featured in recently, but it is not like the entire genre has been ruined just because a lot of people are incorporating it into their music.

 

[Jacques]

I thought it was rubbish to begin with.

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[Venom]

Have to agree with grim on this. Not a fan at all.

 

[Wit]

I thought it was rubbish to begin with.

This.

 

[Malcador]

There's only a few songs I have liked, but I don't particularly like the genre in general.

 

[Ping]

I have heard maybe only two dubstep songs that I actually like. All the other stuff I hear for the most part is just noise. I don't like it since it doesn't seem like it takes that much talent to make it (to make it sound good is another story). The ****ing song remixes I especially hate; anybody can remix a song after spending a few hours messing around with programs, so I don't understand why people continue to play it. The remixes sound like the bastard child of three different songs most of the time.

 

[Vindictive]

I have heard maybe only two dubstep songs that I actually like. All the other stuff I hear for the most part is just noise. I don't like it since it doesn't seem like it takes that much talent to make it (to make it sound good is another story). The ****ing song remixes I especially hate; anybody can remix a song after spending a few hours messing around with programs, so I don't understand why people continue to play it. The remixes sound like the bastard child of three different songs most of the time.

Believe it or not, dubstep does take a bit of rythmatic talent to make. True dubstep, that is. (Shiuzu, you put up Coyote kisses. I love them. Glitch drop is one of my most favored subgenres.) Back on subject, though, it isn't as hard to make dubstep as it is metal (not nu metal or whatever that shit is) or symphonies, but it's not as easy to make dubstep as it is rap or hip hop.

In any case, dubstep may not be ruined yet, but it's getting pretty damn close to it. Rappers with their subgenre "rapstep" are pushing their limits. Also, dubstep originally started as remixes of songs. They would take a song, break down its essentials so that only the vocals remained and maybe some of the guitar riffs or something, and put in the bass, distortion, add in the 'wub wub' effect, and create the beat (which is what dubstep is truly about, not so much the wubs), and have a completely original remix. After that, it started becoming its own thing, and it become an underground genre of music that was raw and original.

Then hollywood got their hands on it... And now it's starting to become one of the biggest fads in America, and it's ruining dubstep. I liked it when nobody knew what it was and it was still underground. I still love it, I just hate this stupid craze that America has for it. It makes me want to leave this planet.

 

[Empress]

okay here is my real rant:

* takes a deep breath*

The whole " it's unique it was special it was better before it got famous etc etc" It's the argument and issues of youthful ignorance it always has been. because this is nothing new slightly...

Dubstep unique and origional?

not by a long shot

when I hear it, it's hard to see anything unique. Slightly evolved? yes. Unique no. It's really nothing more than a variant of UK house and hard trance.

Swedish Eqil mixes, DJ Gert, BK Funk Addiction, Hyper logic, future sound of london.... this is what was big club wise when I was oooh about 17 to 20-ish somewhere in there prodigy gained a frontman and boomed in popularity and everyone wanted to be them.

like the oh so original dubstep they evolved out of the club scene, which was a child of eurobeat in the 80's


When Mozart was an up and coming composer some of his works were considered unique and different too - as far as the contemporary at the time. once he rose in popularity thousands of composers started sounding like him, some no names, others long respected veterans looking for a new muse.

blue grass, and country have all gone though countless stages of evolution- all of which still came from Irish, Scottish, and British folk songs and hymns ( some have even made the step back such as the chieftains covering the Tennessee waltz )

What Im getting down to is, this is the nature of the music beast, it's going to happen, it's inevitable regardless of genre, or that genres origin, every style out there is a evolution of another before it. It's harder to see when your young, trust me I bitched too when people tried sounding like Tool or NIN and they started showing up in more things

Just take the time, look out into other things like.. oh Billie holiday, or listen to a band conducted by Guy Lombardo then progress to some of Dean Martins early works, Listen to things outside of your box, and trace it, you'll easily see that not only is nothing sacred in music ( or film or any entertainment medium) but that they all come from a common tree too.

I also note nothing is more pretentious and naive than trying to pull that " before you knew about them" trust me I've been there before to when I was younger when Rammstine was a nobody until they landed a gig on the lost highway soundtrack and suddenly everyone loved them.... it really really does not matter in the end because everyone starts like that, and everything gets burned out it's how the cycle works regardless if we like it or not

 

[Green Ranger]

Adena, I love you.

 

[Jacques]

-snip-

And;

That was awesome.

 

[Vindictive]

:CIsee you win for now...

In all seriousness, I admit I acted out of raging on a pointless commercial using dubstep and all of it finally came out. I just fancy dubstep and didn't really pay attention to its roots as much as how it started. I just don't like how hollywood takes good things, not just dubstep, and turns it into a gimmick to make money. It's arbituary, irritating, and completely annoying. Good movies and books were ass-raped by hollywood just because they wanted their wallets to be fatter. A good example is [ST]twilight[/ST] oops, didn't mean to put that in there.

Some examples, as I'm sure you could point out even better examples, are clash of the titans, lost in space, the amazing spiderderp, eragon, (I'll even through this one in there, though it was a pointless shit of a story anyways; Twilight. They managed to make that worse than it already was. That says something.) even a movie with such potential as Avatar, for Christ's sake! Avatar, a movie which was fairly an original concept with the setting, was ass ****ed by hollywood wanting to write a shit story and turn it into an unoriginal sad sap-story.

 

[Ser Gregor]

I was into DubStep for a few months last summer. After those few months I realized two very important things. 1) every song is essentially the same and 2) it is loved by a veritable legion of douchebags.

It's a fad (at least, I really, really hope it is) that'll fizzle out in a few years.

 

[Green Ranger]

I was into DubStep for a few months last summer. After those few months I realized two very important things. 1) every song is essentially the same and 2) it is loved by a veritable legion of douchebags.

It's a fad (at least, I really, really hope it is) that'll fizzle out in a few years.

I had the same thing. I think I was into it for about a week at most.