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[Bee]

I dunno. Personally, I kinda treat them like that old racist grandparent/uncle/whatever that most people have. Like, you can try and tell granny that it's impolite to call people "coloreds" in 2014 but when it doesn't get through you just smile and nod and ignore it, or break ties. (Obviously not a great solution for family in some cases, but yeah)

eta: Assuming you mean those people who are 100% convinced that men are laid low by the matriarchy and that women are alien reptiles trying to subjugate the human race, the above applies. As for actual criminals uhhh. I don't know.

 

[Liam]

I dunno. Personally, I kinda treat them like that old racist grandparent/uncle/whatever that most people have. Like, you can try and tell granny that it's impolite to call people "coloreds" in 2014 but when it doesn't get through you just smile and nod and ignore it, or break ties. (Obviously not a great solution for family in some cases, but yeah)

You should check out www.reddit.com/r/forwardsfromgrandma
It almost entirely consists of what you just talked about.

 

[Derath Quinton]

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After my deliberate gauging of the many individuals of this site on their mannerisms through this topic over several days, I have something to say that has taken me a couple days' time to work out... insult me if you want, but unless you present an argument backed by enough evidence to knock my argument, and the links, as wrong or as a way to change my stern, yet malleable, mindset, you will be ignored.... Otherwise, let your mind be open, and you may even get a glimpse of the window of the issues facing South Africa, China, and Afghanistan through this topic.



You initially thought me to be subhuman trash because I didn't follow your same ideals. Seriously, what good is ganging up on an individual through nasty remarks and the like if they don't share your views? That is dispicable nature, and you're no better than mainstream tumblr feminists, the WBC, the islamic extremists.



Rape culture does not exist. Our society does not condone rape. Shit, even rape inmates are given their own little cell because they are afraid of what their fellow inmates will do to them. It does not exist.



Sexual objectification: Regardless of how you want to go about it, EVERYBODY objectifies. If a man/woman was presented two men/women with mirroring personalities, but one being sexually stunning and the other only somewhat appealing, you can bet the physically appealing one would be chosen everytime. That is just human nature and it is hardwired into our skulls. Objectification is a gateway to determining, on a basic and instinctual level, on who is a viable mate. There is nothing wrong with objectification, and to think so is to separate us from our human nature. If I find you sexy, I'm going to find you sexy, and may very well masturbate to the thought of you. At the same time, if a woman finds me sexy, she's going to find me sexy, and may very well masturbate to the thought of me. That is human nature, and to say otherwise is, really, a stupid ****ing thing to believe.

Furthermore, I believe that to try and de-sexualize men and women is just wrong. That is my very honest belief. We shouldn't have "beauty standards," per se, but we shouldn't be so afraid of the miniscule few that we imprison the thoughts and actions of the many just to keep those few in check. Humankind will always have the lowlifes and the degenerates who will force their way into anything, be it gaining money, sex, drugs, cars... whatever! That sentence brings to mind what one of my very sexually active female friends said to me over facebook:

"I love it when I get complimented on my looks. Just because one man raped me does not mean the man who called me "sweet cheeks" is going to rape me, nor the guy who looks me up and down will either. Just as long as there's no touching, I'm completely fine with it. Not to mention the constant boost of confidence it brings me."

If we want to talk about which gender is genuinely objectified in all respects, I will argue with you day and night that men are societies objects that can be thrown in the trash once his usefulness has dried up.



Sexual harassment: I agree it is a big issue, but it's not the only issue, and not one that only women face. For me to be expected to hold MORE compassion for a woman than a man, purely because of statistics, is not human, and I refuse to put women on a pedestal higher than men; I hold compassion for everyone equally.

Personal accounts from men and boys from multiple chat rooms:

-"Called a ****** on a daily basis for wearing spikey hair and goth clothes," - Anonymous. Clearly attacking the (then) teenage boy's sexuality.

-"Littledick fat****!" - Attacking a (then) teenage boy's capability at sex. Clearly an unwanted sexual remark... sexual harassment/humiliation.

-"Sonny, you need to work those muscles of you want to attract a woman." - referring to advice given from his grandmother. Clearly, how his body looked was more important than his personality. Whether he is of a preferable personality is unknown.

-"Suck it up, buttercup! No girl wants to **** you if you're going to act like that!"

-"I had a woman at my old desk job constantly sexually harass me. I am married, and she knew it, but she got satisfaction from having the power to openly grope me with zero recompense." - Former co-worker.

Just a handful of responses I was given. Anonymity will remain.

With that said, the many videos and news pages I've posted entail sexual harassment and assault has been on a decline from years ago, with the only thing keeping numbers up are several repeat offenses reported on one person, from one person. Indeed, those very same statistics have been, basically, knocked down as very inaccurate. Feminists know this, but they still need to find something to play their victim, and thereby the prosecution, complex on. What more than on the very streets of the ghetto? You don't mean that the very same streets that carry the same degenerates who would kill you for no reason, break into your car for that radio and speakers, mug you for your purse or wallet, are supposed to have the common decency to respect you because you're a woman? That's funny shit, I tell you, and those same degenerates WILL rape you if they could get away with it, male or female. If feminism is running out of so many ideas that they have to go after the slums, then they've already accomplished what they set out to do. Until Emma gave her speech to the UN, was feminism REALLY going to go after improving the rights of ACTUAL oppressed women of other countries, or actually championing the issues of men? Shit, the vast majority of muslim women and chinese women don't want to give up their cozy lifestyle for something of immense stress. If you really think about it, mainstream media wants to keep it going here inside progressive countries, and countries on the road to progressivness, because it sells. These same people will buy T-shirts. They will buy videos. They will buy posters and cardboard signs and... ****, I can go on and on.

I am truly sorry for those who have dealt with sexual assault, but you are on such a small scale that, compared to other women as a whole, your demands REALLY don't have much of a say, and a majority of women see a lot of feminists as whiny bitches trying to mess with a life that they feel is otherwise VERY GOOD for a woman.

 

[jpchewy01]

I promised myself I was gonna read that post but then you lost me at "rape culture doesn't exist." Try again.

 

[Bee]

My Grandfather smoked his whole life. I was about ten years old when my mother said to him, "If you ever want to see your grandchildren graduate, you have to stop immediately". Tears welled up in his eyes when he realized what exactly was at stake. He gave it up immediately. Three years later he died of lung cancer. It was really sad and destroyed me. My mother said to me, "Don't ever smoke. Please don't put your family through what your Grandfather put us through." I agreed. At twenty eight, I have never touched a cigarette. I must say, I feel a very slight sense of regret for never having done it, because your post gave me cancer anyway.

 

[Logan]

My Grandfather smoked his whole life. I was about ten years old when my mother said to him, "If you ever want to see your grandchildren graduate, you have to stop immediately". Tears welled up in his eyes when he realized what exactly was at stake. He gave it up immediately. Three years later he died of lung cancer. It was really sad and destroyed me. My mother said to me, "Don't ever smoke. Please don't put your family through what your Grandfather put us through." I agreed. At twenty eight, I have never touched a cigarette. I must say, I feel a very slight sense of regret for never having done it, because your post gave me cancer anyway.

I love you.

 

[StandbyRanger]

My Grandfather smoked his whole life. I was about ten years old when my mother said to him, "If you ever want to see your grandchildren graduate, you have to stop immediately". Tears welled up in his eyes when he realized what exactly was at stake. He gave it up immediately. Three years later he died of lung cancer. It was really sad and destroyed me. My mother said to me, "Don't ever smoke. Please don't put your family through what your Grandfather put us through." I agreed. At twenty eight, I have never touched a cigarette. I must say, I feel a very slight sense of regret for never having done it, because your post gave me cancer anyway.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

My Grandfather smoked his whole life. I was about ten years old when my mother said to him, "If you ever want to see your grandchildren graduate, you have to stop immediately". Tears welled up in his eyes when he realized what exactly was at stake. He gave it up immediately. Three years later he died of lung cancer. It was really sad and destroyed me. My mother said to me, "Don't ever smoke. Please don't put your family through what your Grandfather put us through." I agreed. At twenty eight, I have never touched a cigarette. I must say, I feel a very slight sense of regret for never having done it, because your post gave me cancer anyway.

 

[Kaeb]

Which one of us is going to bite the bullet and dissect his post and teach him another lesson?

I mean, I'll do it, but I'll expect payment.

 

[Derath Quinton]

Which one of us is going to bite the bullet and dissect his post and teach him another lesson?

I mean, I'll do it, but I'll expect payment.

Kaeb, in all honesty, I would very much enjoy if you did so. I would think at least you and I could have something that could closely resemble a civil debate, sharing our point of views in such a way that maybe I can come to see some of your side, and vice versa. That's all I'm asking, really -- civility without every sentence an insult.

 

[Vulpes]

As much as i disagree with him and hate to say it, i think we should jsut give him an honest debate. It's hardly fair for him to bring a big post with sources for him to just get memes and insults.

Just my opinion.

 

[Kaeb]

Alright, when I have a few minutes I'll grap a cup of something and engage you on your issues mate.

Should be tonight or tomorrow depending on my level of freedom.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

This is literally the first time in all of human history that anyone has said that they think they can have a civil debate with Kaeb.

 

[Kaeb]

If you're opinion is stupid/potentially damaging, I will fight you.

 

[Bee]

What's there to debate? Rape culture isn't real, average white men are marginalized moreso than any other group, and misogyny don't real. Duh.

If you're opinion is stupid/potentially damaging, I will fight you.

u wot m8

 

[Liam]

As much as i disagree with him and hate to say it, i think we should jsut give him an honest debate. It's hardly fair for him to bring a big post with sources for him to just get memes and insults.

Just my opinion.

As much as I know this won't happen, I hope it does.

 

[Derath Quinton]

What's there to debate? Rape culture isn't real, average white men are marginalized moreso than any other group, and misogyny don't real. Duh.

I want to take this moment to clarify that I do believe that there are privileges in place, both positive and negative, for every gender and color. Misogyny and misandry are real. However, I still don't see how rape culture is a thing when we as a whole completely despise the notion, with fathers, grandfathers, brothers, etc. going vigilante on many perpetrators. If it has such a strong influence on our culture, why does our society as a whole despise it? How can it have such an apparent pull on everyone, despite all that? I don't see evidence. Until I see evidence, it simply isn't there.

Anybody can answer that for me, but would ask for you, Kaeb, to also touch on that for me as well unless I have a satisfactory answer beforehand.

 

[Oncaro]

I want to take this moment to clarify that I do believe that there are privileges in place, both positive and negative, for every gender and color. Misogyny and misandry are real. However, I still don't see how rape culture is a thing when we as a whole completely despise the notion, with fathers, grandfathers, brothers, etc. going vigilante on many perpetrators. If it has such a strong influence on our culture, why does our society as a whole despise it? How can it have such an apparent pull on everyone, despite all that? I don't see evidence. Until I see evidence, it simply isn't there.

Anybody can answer that for me, but would ask for you, Kaeb, to also touch on that for me as well unless I have a satisfactory answer beforehand.

Uh, quick question, and I'm not trying to disparage you here-- is there even such a thing as negative privilege? That sounds like a contradiction.

 

[Kaeb]

First of all, I will not be addressing every single link and every single point with individual remarks because I don't have time to assess videos that are hours in length but I will be addressing some, so before I even get into this post, I'll be prefacing it with a brief apology for it's inevitable length. Second of all, I'm going to address the fact that this will not be a debate, this will be a learning experience, both for those who do not believe in systemic issues of gender, sexuality, race and rape and those that do. It will be a learning experience for you Quinton, because you will be taught about why you are wrong and it will be a learning experience for those of us who are right, because we'll learn about how it is we can comfortably occupy the same space as others like you, who believe the same things that you do. The objective of the Current Affairs board as it stands is to discuss relevant and important issues within our society, I know Admins have struggled in the past with it's exact purpose beyond that foundation, but it's my belief that these kinds of platforms should ultimately serve as a method of educating those who are ignorant, in order for them to be better integrated into this community.

Now, let's get to it then, shall we?

Right off the bat, you've put yourself on fragile ground by making ''The Amazing Atheist'' the mascot for your anti-rape culture argument that you've decided to reaffirm and represent to us on this forum (for some reason), because of things like this, instances in which TJ Kincaid (his actual name), admits to having deliberately threatened and provoked a survivor of rape's pain with malicious and mocking intent in order to produce self-satisfying reactions to suit his own particularly warped narrative and perspective on the subject of rape in both our culture and the global culture as a whole. This incident along with many other incidents of misogyny ultimately resulted in countless other groups who operate in the same socio-politcal discussion forums that he operated within, ousting him and shaming him out of their community of somewhat militant atheism. He's considered to be a detriment to the cause by much of the atheist and skeptic community, who distance themselves from him due to his vulgar and sometimes misogynistic tirades (which include blaming rape victims and suicide victims).

Here are some lovely excerpts from his e-book Scumbag: Musings of a Subhuman :

Rape isn't fatal. So imagine my indignation when I saw a chatroom called "Rape Survivors." Is this supposed to impress me? Someone ****ed you when you didn't want to be ****ed and you're amazed that you survived? Unless he used a chainsaw instead of his dick, what's the big deal? ... The word survivor applies to people who are alive after being stabbed 73 times with an ice pick or mauled by rabid wolverines, not to a woman who gets dick when she doesn't want it. Just because you got raped, you have to rape the English language? You vindictive bitch! Also, don't you ever get tired of being the victim? How many failed relationships are you going to blame on a single violation of your personal space?

And another in which Kincaid recalls a female acquaintance who rejected a guy for his small penis size. The anecdote culminates in more abhorrent and disgusting comments from your anti-rape culture mascot:

I told her, "You’re lucky it wasn't me. I’d have busted your ****ing nose and raped you."

So yeah, forgive me if I don't take his views on sexual objectification and rape culture seriously, because every instance in which he discusses it, appears to be entirely deluded tirades in which he attempts to manipulate the facts in order to justify his own malignant and inherent misogyny. He's also, on numerous occasions, claimed that feminism is about female supremacy and not equality, and has gone on to compare feminism as a movement to the Nazi's or the KKK, organisations of extremely conservative men who butchered countless innocents based on their own personal prejudices and lust for power and dominance, something feminism is directly against as a foundation of the movement, so forgive me again if I don't trust his intellect or adhere to his insight on the subject. He is not a legitimate voice in this conversation, he is simply a troll and the worst kind there is. He also begs for money online, so that's the last I'll be saying about this piece of trash. And the less said about Karen Straughan the better, some of her comments regarding feminist extremists might be warranted, if feminist extremism was more of a legitimate issue. It's not. She's fighting the wrong fight. There are far more issues with MRA's then there are with most other movements involved in these issues, her focus should really be there.

The rest of your video links are incredibly muddled and disjointed and are addressing so many disparate and differing issues that I'm not exactly sure which points you want to be addressed. Is the word 'feminism' potentially damaging to the movement? Potentially, but there isn't enough research on the subject for that to be a legitimate point, as it stands right now, men are more privileged, women are less privileged, so of course the movement is about critiquing that. This is pretty basic logic. And as for the final few links about representation of women in video games not being a problem, please, don't make me laugh. A short google and you'll find yourself with hundreds of articles on your lap telling you why representation in video games as it currently stands is a serious social entertainment issue, that not only needs to be addressed for moral reasons but financial ones.

As for your new column links, a number of them are simple fluff or opinions pieces, in which any half-cocked gonzo-journo can dilute poll numbers and corroborate statistics from varied sources in order to back up their own individual claims in order to present themselves as a legitimate voice, as a counterpoint, I could provide the very same number of links that support my argument, which in this instance, also happens to fall in line with the truth of things. Which is that rape culture is a very real, systemic and sinister issue, that effects people of all ages, sizes, genders, backgrounds and ethnicities. Rape culture is the ways in which a society trivializes, rationalizes, or even condones rape and other acts of sexual violence. Rape culture includes a variety of issues from the way raped individuals are treated by police to the way rape is portrayed in fiction and by the media. Modern rape culture is steeped in institutionalized misogyny, having at its core cultural features of a society that is defining, politicizing, and ultimately controlling women's bodies. Rape culture, like all other aspects of culture, informs individual behaviors on many levels - often in ways the individual isn't even aware of.

Here are some counter links if that's really the bullshit way you want to do this:

1. http://time.com/40110/rape-culture-is-real/
2. http://everydayfeminism.com/2014/03/examples-of-rape-culture/
3. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/julia-kacmarek/rape-culture-is_b_3368577.html
4. http://thehumanist.com/commentary/time-magazine-is-wrong-rape-culture-does-exist
5. http://yesmeansyesblog.wordpress.com/2009/07/23/this-is-what-rape-culture-looks-like/
6. http://jezebel.com/5369395/whoopi-on-roman-polanski-it-wasnt-rape-rape
7. http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2014/02/03/woody-allens-defenders-and-rape-culture
8. http://jiv.sagepub.com/content/29/12/2273.abstract
9. http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_facto...do_colleges_fail_to_investigate_athletes.html
10. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3067991/

Now onto the actual bulk of your post.

After my deliberate gauging of the many individuals of this site on their mannerisms through this topic over several days, I have something to say that has taken me a couple days' time to work out... insult me if you want, but unless you present an argument backed by enough evidence to knock my argument, and the links, as wrong or as a way to change my stern, yet malleable, mindset, you will be ignored.... Otherwise, let your mind be open, and you may even get a glimpse of the window of the issues facing South Africa, China, and Afghanistan through this topic.

The reason people insulted and mocked initially is because your comments were inherently insulting to many people on this forum. You gon act like a bitch, you gon get treated like a bitch etc.

First of all, I think you're entering this topic the wrong way. Instead of entering a discussion on an issue seeking to know more, you're seeking to further entrench and defend your own conservative ideology. You are the one that needs to be more open minded, because this is the third time you've attempted to defend your ideology and the third time I've had to rebuke it.

You initially thought me to be subhuman trash because I didn't follow your same ideals. Seriously, what good is ganging up on an individual through nasty remarks and the like if they don't share your views? That is dispicable nature, and you're no better than mainstream tumblr feminists, the WBC, the islamic extremists.

Oh, cry me a ****ing river mate. No one thought you were subhuman trash, everyone just thought your comments about the issues being discussed were dumb, ill-informed and ill-conceived. Simple as.

And furthermore, comparing us to fringe groups who perpetuate instances of mass violence and hysteria in no way legitimizes your argument mate, it simply makes you look petty and scared. It makes you look like Fox News. Wait shit-

Rape culture does not exist.

Yes it does.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Chilling_effect

Our society does not condone rape.

No one is saying that it outwardly condones rape, we're saying it doesn't do enough of anything to address it as an issue, which unfortunately makes it a much more complexly difficult issue to deal with. That is rape culture.

And so is the fact that the FBI didn't even classify male rape as a thing until back in 2012. Or the fact that people are basing their responses to rape based on demarcating it and attempting to slice into different categories that de-legitimize the severity of the act and it's ramifications. Victim blaming is also currently a very serious issue.

Oh yeah, and there's the obvious the fact that all over the ****ing developing world, rape is used as a method of mass warfare against innocent and unwitting populations.

Shit, even rape inmates are given their own little cell because they are afraid of what their fellow inmates will do to them.

Stats from 2006 upwards to as recent as 2012 tell us that from 5%-20% of prisoners in the US alone has reported instances in which they were sexually coerced or raped by both fellow inmates and facility staff members. Might not be the best idea to bring up prison rapes as a foundation of your anti-rape culture argument mate.

It does not exist.

Again, you're wrong. It does.

Regardless of how you want to go about it, EVERYBODY objectifies. If a man/woman was presented two men/women with mirroring personalities, but one being sexually stunning and the other only somewhat appealing, you can bet the physically appealing one would be chosen everytime.

You are not a scientist. That is not science. Objectification literally means treating a person as a thing, without regard to their dignity. So no mate, everyone does not objectify. And for those that do, it's a fault of education, parenting and the rape culture in which we occupy. You've actually inadvertently proven yourself wrong mate.

That is just human nature and it is hardwired into our skulls.

Again, you're not a scientist. Also, if you want to go down the route of human instincts, are you also saying that if a man gives into his carnal urges against someone's will based on how his brain is hardwired, than that's simply just human nature?

The world isn't a natural place anymore, times change, attitudes must change with them. That is progress.

Objectification is a gateway to determining, on a basic and instinctual level, on who is a viable mate.

Nope. We don't live in the jungle, please come back to the real world.

There is nothing wrong with objectification,

If you don't think treating everyone you see like an object is wrong, then there's something seriously wrong with you mate.

and to think so is to separate us from our human nature. If I find you sexy, I'm going to find you sexy, and may very well masturbate to the thought of you. At the same time, if a woman finds me sexy, she's going to find me sexy, and may very well masturbate to the thought of me. That is human nature, and to say otherwise is, really, a stupid ****ing thing to believe.

Uhm, yeah that's not objectification. You seem confused. Please stop talking about masturbation. If you feel this much sexual entitlement to the bodies of others, then you have serious issues mate. No one owes you anything. Women don't even owe you a look. You can think whatever you want in your head, but as it stands, this really has nothing to do with the topic we're discussing.

Furthermore, I believe that to try and de-sexualize men and women is just wrong.

We're simply discussing consent and agency.

No one is talking about de-sexualizing men and women, we're simply discussing the fact that as a culture, through mass media, we currently approach this as a prospect in a seriously warped and damaging way that psychologically effects our population in negative and detrimental ways. Putting extreme amounts of pressure on young women to be beautiful in order to be successful or pressure on men to be masculine in order to be desirable, but this goes into a whole host of other issues, like the massive issues with how women's bodies are presented in the media. You can show a woman getting her head chopped off in the movies and you'll get an 18 rating, but if you show her experiencing an orgasm, it get's an R rating. These are real issues mate, please don't trivialize them because you simply don't understand them.

We shouldn't have "beauty standards," per se

This, basically.

That sentence brings to mind what one of my very sexually active female friends said to me over facebook:

"I love it when I get complimented on my looks. Just because one man raped me does not mean the man who called me "sweet cheeks" is going to rape me, nor the guy who looks me up and down will either. Just as long as there's no touching, I'm completely fine with it. Not to mention the constant boost of confidence it brings me."

Anecdotal evidence does not equate to the facts, and the ignorance of one woman's perspective on the damaging nature of severe sexual objectification does not de-legitimize the systemic issues of rape culture. You're doing this wrong mate.

If we want to talk about which gender is genuinely objectified in all respects, I will argue with you day and night that men are societies objects that can be thrown in the trash once his usefulness has dried up.

Again, there are real issues with how our society treats men, but this isn't one of them, and it reaks of you trying to disgustingly deflect the very real and far more severe issues women face towards male issues. Don't do that.

Sexual harassment: I agree it is a big issue,

Uhhh, good? Do you want a cookie for that?

but it's not the only issue, and not one that only women face.

Uhhh, and your point is? Women are raped leaps and bounds more than men, that doesn't mean that we shouldn't address male instances of rape, it simply means that female instances of rape are currently far more widespread and alarming and need to be addresed more immediately. What exactly are you trying to say here? That we shouldn't be talking about this at all? Christ, I hope that's not what you're saying.

For me to be expected to hold MORE compassion for a woman than a man, purely because of statistics, is not human, and I refuse to put women on a pedestal higher than men; I hold compassion for everyone equally.

And here's where I insult you.

You're a ****ing idiot.

Yes, if you see a statistic that says a thousand women are raped every week of the year, that SHOULD illicit an emotional and compassionate response from you, why are you immediately inserting men into the issue? They're not apart of the issue, so why are you inserting them into it? Feminism is not about female supremacy mate, the sooner you cop this, the better, because as it stands, your views don't follow the facts whatsoever and it could potentially be very damaging to you as a person, and to other people if you perpetuate them in other forums of discussion both on and offline.

- Personal accounts from men and boys from multiple chat rooms -

Just a handful of responses I was given. Anonymity will remain.

What point are you trying to make here?

If I'm to believe that you actually received these messages (which I don't), what exactly does a bunch of butthurt men prove to me about rape culture? Or feminism? Or equality?

Some women were mean to some men, or at least they perceive them to be?

Boo ****ing who mate. Women are treated far worse by our society globally, forgive me if I don't weep over some anonymous chatroom twats who hate women. Again, not exactly the kind of people you want to present as a foundation for your argument mate.

With that said, the many videos and news pages I've posted entail sexual harassment and assault has been on a decline from years ago, with the only thing keeping numbers up are several repeat offenses reported on one person, from one person.

Bullshit. No, they don't.

Indeed, those very same statistics have been, basically, knocked down as very inaccurate.

Again, nope.

Feminists know this, but they still need to find something to play their victim, and thereby the prosecution, complex on.

This doesn't make a lick of sense.

What more than on the very streets of the ghetto? You don't mean that the very same streets that carry the same degenerates who would kill you for no reason, break into your car for that radio and speakers, mug you for your purse or wallet, are supposed to have the common decency to respect you because you're a woman? That's funny shit, I tell you, and those same degenerates WILL rape you if they could get away with it, male or female.

Some nonsensical sociopathic shit right here.

If feminism is running out of so many ideas that they have to go after the slums, then they've already accomplished what they set out to do.

Yeah, feminism isn't ''running out of ideas'', so I'm not sure where you're getting that from. And I'm not exactly sure what you mean by the second part either, as soon as your comments became less and less compassionate throughout this post, that started to make less and less sense.

Until Emma gave her speech to the UN, was feminism REALLY going to go after improving the rights of ACTUAL oppressed women of other countries, or actually championing the issues of men?

Yup, it was, but the voices of women were constantly shot down by men in power who sought to silence them, she used her fame as a platform to defy this. She was moderately successful, and then of course, she started to receive thousands of rape and death threats from men all over the world. It's almost like that's a problem, eh mate?

Shit, the vast majority of muslim women and chinese women don't want to give up their cozy lifestyle for something of immense stress. If you really think about it, mainstream media wants to keep it going here inside progressive countries, and countries on the road to progressivness, because it sells. These same people will buy T-shirts. They will buy videos. They will buy posters and cardboard signs and... ****, I can go on and on.

Some more sociopathic nonsense here too.

I am truly sorry for those who have dealt with sexual assault, but you are on such a small scale that, compared to other women as a whole, your demands REALLY don't have much of a say, and a majority of women see a lot of feminists as whiny bitches trying to mess with a life that they feel is otherwise VERY GOOD for a woman.

Right, women who get raped should just keep their mouths shut right?


Get the **** off this forum with that shit you despicable ****.

 

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