Fifth Timeline: Characters

[Ser Gregor]

Pretty much per Nevermore. A new timeline is an opportunity to play new characters, not slightly altered old characters.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

I also think a family name has no bearing on whether the character is a carbon copy or not. Speaking from my own experience with the Bac family, as well as the experience of RPing with others who have had Bac family characters, no two Bacs have been the same. Some of them have had the same Ussej Padric Bac name, but that doesn't mean they're all the same.

If you want to continue a family name, you need to have a good reason for it. I don't mean a good reason for why that name is still around, although that's important too, but a good reason as to why you're still using that name as the name for one of your characters.

If you're just using it so you can have another member of that family, then perhaps you should consider a different name. If you're using it because there's some actual meaning behind it, then that's a different story.

Continue your family lines if a) it makes sense that the name is still around, b) there's an actual reason for you to continue using that name, and c) you're not just making a carbon copy of a previous character with that name.

Otherwise, while you're free to ignore everything I'm saying, I don't think you should continue your family line.

 

[Jake]

You shouldn't let it get to you. At the end of the day, RPing is about having fun and having too many rules and regs can really impact upon that. If someone wants an identi-char then that's their perogative, just as it is their perogative to name their char what they like. As I've said, I find it unrealistic and won't be doing it (although I like the idea of one or two of my new characters being descended from those I have now, even if the name didn't survive), but if someone wants to I struggle to see how it's detrimental to the RP.

See, I disagree with that because you're promoting the (erroneous) idea that significance really matters for this kind of thing...either you think it's justified or you don't, I think it's rather unfair to suggest it's alright for some characters because they've been more involved in the main story progression of the RP.

Well, it's not like I'm going to make a rule saying that they can't do it, I'm just saying that in the long run it's going to detract from the fun of the game if everyone runs around using the same characters from timeline to timeline. That's how it will be detrimental to the RP: things will get stagnant faster than if people bring in new characters to do new things.

As for your other point, I'm kind of torn on whether I agree or disagree, on second thought. :P On one hand I believe IC significance does play some part, but I also agree that it's unfair to say people shouldn't play their characters' descendants just because they didn't have an opportunity to accomplish much. It just seems like people want to continue their family line for the sake of continuing it, rather than because they have some reason to continue it.

Sidenote: the amount of random things that distracted me from posting this are kind of ridiculous. A bird smashed into my window, a random old family friend called, and the dog escaped so I had to go get her.

 

[Jaqen H'ghar]

Sidenote: the amount of random things that distracted me from posting this are kind of ridiculous. A bird smashed into my window, a random old family friend called, and the dog escaped so I had to go get her.

O.o maybe you just triggered the Apocalypse by posting it.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

O.o maybe you just triggered the Apocalypse by posting it.

I've assembled a powerful and badass team to help stop it:

 

[Kaeb]

I've assembled a powerful and badass team to help stop it:

Picking the worst image of them ever....oh bac.

 

[Malon]

I've assembled a powerful and badass team to help stop it:

:CStern We're doomed...

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Picking the worst image of them ever....oh bac.

Believe me, there are far worse.

 

[Kaeb]

Darth Malon, I just noticed.

I made the picture you're using for your avatar...

 

[HK-2E]

It's really beginning to bother me that's saying "Oh I'll just make a carbon copy of <x character>" and "I'll just continue <x family line>".

People have said it already: we're moving 14000 years into the future. Maybe a select few families could have somehow preserved their lineage over that length of time, but if everyone just renames their characters and plays with the same family name, what is the point of moving into a new timeline? We're supposed to make new characters to play with and explore new situations, not do more of the same in a new setting with fancier gadgets and such.

I mean, if you're new and couldn't use your characters, that's one thing, but I've seen tons of people say they'll be making carbon copies of so and so or continuing some random family line that has no significance except that their character was in it, unlike the Bac and Winters families that at least had multiple players using the name (not to mention everything the Bacs accomplished).

Thank you for that at least.

Anyway, the character I'm making isn't going to be a carbon copy; just a descendant. Besides, I'm not just saying the family line was continued naturally on its own. Also, unless they decided not to have kids, every lineage could continue over most any amount of time. If I was given enough time to continue using Algent, you would have seen how significant the family was just like the Bacs and Winters.

Oh and the point of going to a new time line is to have a new storyline not having anything to do with characters almost.

Anyone else have something to defend themselves with?

 

[Jake]

The new storyline is driven by its characters.

But besides that, families just don't last 14000 years almost ever. I mean, in Star Wars, the odds may be vastly improved but that's not to say it's realistic by any means to make them so ancient. There are too many factors to consider: no male births in the family, sudden deaths, impotence...

Like it's been said, no one can tell you not to do it, but we can all tell you how unrealistic it is. :P

 

[HK-2E]

If you want to continue a family name, you need to have a good reason for it. I don't mean a good reason for why that name is still around, although that's important too, but a good reason as to why you're still using that name as the name for one of your characters.

I like this guy.

My character's family name, at the very least, lasted because Algent had the sense to attach its memory to the Jedi Order. I have covered all my bases.

Last name changes are tradition.
Multiple Children.
A great deal of mixing with unrelated people.

 

[Malon]

Darth Malon, I just noticed.

I made the picture you're using for your avatar...

Seriously? Would you prefer I remove it? I apologize.

 

[Kaeb]

Seriously? Would you prefer I remove it? I apologize.

I photoshopped like three diferent images together and edited it like I do with all my characters, I think he was a Republic Politican...Tyrell Hanus? Yeah that was it.

I'm curious as to where you came across it exactly?

 

[Brandon Rhea]

I like this guy.

My character's family name, at the very least, lasted because Algent had the sense to attach its memory to the Jedi Order. I have covered all my bases.

That's not what I was saying.

I was saying that you, the RPer, need to have a good reason to be using it, not a reason for why your character is still using it.

That's why the follow up paragraph was what it was:

If you're just using it so you can have another member of that family, then perhaps you should consider a different name. If you're using it because there's some actual meaning behind it, then that's a different story.

The question you need to ask yourself is, "Is there a purpose that is being served by using this name beyond just the fact that I want to use the name? Is there some genuine story meaning behind using the name?"

If you start having to "cover your bases," as you said it, then you're actually moving away from what I'm saying.

For example, I don't need to force the memory of the Bac name. I don't need to make up reasons in order to suit the fact that the name continues on. There are actual RPd reasons for that, and they weren't done in order to force a legacy in order to continue using a name.

If I choose to continue using the Bac family name in the fifth timeline, then the reasoning for it won't feel forced. It will feel natural because I didn't make up reasons in order to justify using it.

 

[Veritas et Lux]

but in all seriousness. it's just names. and personality. no its not detremental. whenever i have to write a whole new profile. and im ocd about my profiles being good in my own eyes. just. gah. it makes it hard

 

[HK-2E]

That's not what I was saying.

I was saying that you, the RPer, need to have a good reason to be using it, not a reason for why your character is still using it.

That's why the follow up paragraph was what it was:



The question you need to ask yourself is, "Is there a purpose that is being served by using this name beyond just the fact that I want to use the name? Is there some genuine story meaning behind using the name?"

If you start having to "cover your bases," as you said it, then you're actually moving away from what I'm saying.

For example, I don't need to force the memory of the Bac name. I don't need to make up reasons in order to suit the fact that the name continues on. There are actual RPd reasons for that, and they weren't done in order to force a legacy in order to continue using a name.

If I choose to continue using the Bac family name in the fifth timeline, then the reasoning for it won't feel forced. It will feel natural because I didn't make up reasons in order to justify using it.

Oh no I was just saying I like what you said. That was my own thing. xD I do have a good reason for keeping the family name though lol.

 

[Malon]

I photoshopped like three diferent images together and edited it like I do with all my characters, I think he was a Republic Politican...Tyrell Hanus? Yeah that was it.

I'm curious as to where you came across it exactly?

I don't remember, exactly. I've had the image for a little over a week. I thought it was just some random image, but if you photoshoped it for your character than I don't mind removing it. I have a back up stored somewhere.

 

[Jaqen H'ghar]

I do have a good reason for keeping the family name though lol.

What is it?

 

[HK-2E]

What is it?

If I state it publicly then I cease to have the reason.