Man cuts tracking bracelet then rapes child and murders mother in NY

[Malakhov]

There's much worse than being isolated for life. Though none that they could do, legally atleast. Though I wouldn't want to wish being tortured to near death everyday for the rest of your life. Though I guess he would be mentally if they broke his legs to where he couldn't use them.

EDIT: Lots of though's in those sentences :D

Besides sleep deprivation, I don't think there is, at least not over the long term.

 

[Creation]

What that guy did was terrible.

Rapists: Rapists get little respect and are often the most detested group of prisoners. They are considered the lowest of the low because they assault women who are considered to be weaker than men. Prisoners under trial say they get a “welcome thrashing” as soon as they move in. While other criminals often take pride in their crimes, rapists are considered weak and hateful.

Just searched the internet "Prison Hierarchy" And I have to agree with this.

 

[©razy Man]

I was warned a long time ago not to debate with people on this site. I think I'll just leave it alone. But as it stands I wouldn't care if they did do something bad to him because the Warden or whoever controls where prisoners go decided to leave him in the general population. The they put him in isolation at their 'sudden' realization. Makes me a bad person oh well he did what he did willingly. I guess the golden rule semi works in this situation.

 

[Emerald Iris]

It’s a sad implication on society when we have blood lust over crime and want people to receive the death penalty. It’s an even sadder implication when those opposed to the death penalty are opposed simply so the criminal can be raped and/or murdered while in prison.

I'm opposed to the Death Penalty because I don't want to pay for it. It costs more to kill a man than it does to incarcerate him for life. That and it seems like such an easy way out. Criminals should pay for what they have done, waiting around for sixteen years while making more people suffer (I.E taxpayers) through the appeals courts is just them continuing to harm society. They know they are going to die, they are going to cause as much pain as possible as they can. Lock them away, throw away the key, and make them watch the world they could have had pass them by. That's a better way to take care of these kinds of horrible people.

I get very heated when a child is in danger, so my mind goes into very dark places. Comes from years of babysitting and the hope that I will have a bun in my oven sooner or later. All in all though, when actually level headed I want what is I guess you could say "morally" best, though probably not the best word to use.

 

[©razy Man]

Just locking him away just cause it cost less seems a little sadistic... No offense and all.

 

[Emerald Iris]

you could argue that killing him, or throwing him to the rest of the inmates could be just as bad.

 

[©razy Man]

Like I said not going to argue on this site. xD Doesn't work out or the best.

 

[Livgardist]

Eeh. Kill the bastard.

We're not doing sentences to justify our bloodthirst. It's to remove a disease from society.

And this guy? He's a disease. Ol' Sparky's the cure.

 

[Malakhov]

Like I said not going to argue on this site. xD Doesn't work out or the best.

Not trying to debate or anything mate, no need to do that. I was simply stating that there's almost nothing worse for the human mind than solitary confinement over a long period. This isn't my opinion, it's a pretty well established medical fact.

 

[©razy Man]

You have no idea how much I want to argue right now. xD But I'm leaving this thread before I do and somehow make someone mad.

 

[Malakhov]

You have no idea how much I want to argue right now. xD But I'm leaving this thread before I do and somehow make someone mad.

Well you can PM with your argument if you like. Doesn't bother me.

 

[Emerald Iris]

Just was pointing the statement out, I don't want to get too heated either.

 

[Empress]

as I said, I look at my two children, and trust me....death is a very very veryveryvery kind thing for what I can put together - something also involving a dull rust cheesegrater comes to mind, and enough medication to make sure they are awake and conscious and able to feel everything without going into shock or passing out- and thats one of the kinder ideas.


Im a good lil Buddhist I swear


though to be honest.....for as sadistic as impulse wants me to be, I do let that fall to the side, still cringe that the US prison system is still a resort in many ways but what happens in general - stays in general usually *nods

 

[Lavi]

Agreed. Life imprisonment, possibly in isolation because of the dangers keeping him in general population would pose, would be a horrible enough punishment for nigh anyone, I would say... I can't think of much worse, to be honest. *shudders*

Not exactly related, but some consider solitary confinement to be a form of torture. Imagine living in a cell for years without talking to anyone.

I'd go crazy. :CCry2

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Solitary confinement is torture. I don't support that unless it's absolutely essential for either the safety of the prisoner or the safety of other prisoners with whom they interact.

Murder within reason

That's an oxymoron. There's no such thing as reasonable murder.

Just locking him away just cause it cost less seems a little sadistic... No offense and all.

Depends on how you frame the argument. If you're throwing them into a dungeon just because of a cost factor then yeah, that's not cool. However, cost is just part of the argument. The other part of the argument is that no human being has the right to kill another human unless their lives are in danger and there are no other options. Execution doesn't do anything other than satisfy a society's need for revenge.

Eeh. Kill the bastard.

We're not doing sentences to justify our bloodthirst. It's to remove a disease from society.

And this guy? He's a disease. Ol' Sparky's the cure.

Putting someone in prison for the rest of their lives also removes them from society. That's the whole point of prison.

 

[©razy Man]

Correction *reasonably killing* as it would not be murder in the way I'm meaning it.

 

[Colt556]

I'm not a fan of 'life in prison'. What's the point? For the rest of this guy's life -I- have to pay for him? How is that a ****ing punishment? My tax dollars go to paying the guards, keeping the prison in running order, giving him clothes, food, running water. Why am I paying for this? If you're gonna get life without parole, may as well just kill him and save everyone the money.

 

[Emerald Iris]

I'm not a fan of 'life in prison'. What's the point? For the rest of this guy's life -I- have to pay for him? How is that a ****ing punishment? My tax dollars go to paying the guards, keeping the prison in running order, giving him clothes, food, running water. Why am I paying for this? If you're gonna get life without parole, may as well just kill him and save everyone the money.

Again the problem is that you cannot just kill a guy in prison. They will fight tooth and nail not to be killed off and by that I mean going through the appeals process. You don't have speedy executions like you did back two hundred years ago or more, it takes about six to sixteen years to kill the inmate. During that time they file appeal after appeal to not be executed and they keep trying every year. That is thousands of thousands of dollars coming out of the courts, I.E your tax dollars, each year. So you have to pay not only the prison staff but also the courts as well.


EDIT: This is assuming USA citizenship of course, I don't know what it is like outside the USA.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

I'm not a fan of 'life in prison'. What's the point? For the rest of this guy's life -I- have to pay for him? How is that a ****ing punishment? My tax dollars go to paying the guards, keeping the prison in running order, giving him clothes, food, running water. Why am I paying for this? If you're gonna get life without parole, may as well just kill him and save everyone the money.

If your concern is money, then you're on the wrong side of the argument. Because of the years and years and years of appeals for any death row case, it's more expensive than keeping someone in prison.

 

[BLADE]

I'm not a fan of 'life in prison'. What's the point? For the rest of this guy's life -I- have to pay for him? How is that a ****ing punishment? My tax dollars go to paying the guards, keeping the prison in running order, giving him clothes, food, running water. Why am I paying for this? If you're gonna get life without parole, may as well just kill him and save everyone the money.

Especially if he's black, amirite?

Trololol

Anyhow most of you people are pretty terrible; I have a daughter and I don't use her as a bloodlust prop. Justice should be done and this man sent to prison. But he is entitled to all his due protections under the law. After all the law is an aegis for even the --especially the-- worst of us.