Man cuts tracking bracelet then rapes child and murders mother in NY

[Cassanova]

They also whipped them or threw them into holes in the ground as punishment, if they didn't outright kill them for disobedience. I doubt many people would approve of that. Plus, you start using convicts for slave labor, others will want to use others for it and we'll repeat history all over again.

We have something better then slave labor, it's called community service.

In Australia, prison industry does things like this. Number plates, mattresses, road works, etc. The inmates actually get paid a wage into an account for them.

 

[Lavi]

What I meant was that war and social programs aren't dealing with direct threats to our society and people that have broken those laws. War and social programs may have laws surrounding them, but they do not deal with those who break the laws and cause society harm. How we deal with our criminals is a bit different than how many drones we buy or how many welfare stamps we give out. That was the logic behind it.

So you're saying they are also laws, but you accidentally applied criminal law across all categories of law.

 

[©razy Man]

He is if he gets behind the wheel of a car

Some people feel nothing at all when they smoke marijuana. Others may feel relaxed or high. Sometimes marijuana makes users feel thirsty and very hungry—an effect called "the munchies."

Some users can undergo bad effects from marijuana. They may suffer sudden feelings of anxiety and have paranoid thoughts. This is more likely to happen when a more potent variety of marijuana is used.

What are the short-term effects of marijuana use?

The short-term effects of marijuana include:

loss of motor coordination
increased heart rate.
distorted perception (sights, sounds, time, touch)
trouble with thinking and problem-solving
problems with memory and learning
These effects are even greater when other drugs are mixed with the marijuana, and users do not always know what drugs are given to them.

I say marijauna is better than booze. :p Not in the way you're thinking (drug free guy right here) it makes you a lot more laid back and other things and doesn't have as much long term effects on the body/brain.

Anyways back onto topic! I agree with what Phil says. Golden Rule applies to everyone, even adults.

EDIT: Wow a lot went by while I was typing that.

 

[Colt556]

Ok, I can't let this one slide.



Twisting my words. Prison can be used for rehabilitation, and you can do constructive things while in prison. Just not as a slave.

Can't rehabilitate them if they can't ever get parole or anything. So may as well make them repay society by helping it progress forwards.

Well you're an idiot, so no surprise there.

At least I don't result to insults just because someone doesn't share my viewpoint.

No to the first part, no to the second, no to the third, but yes I do RP in a SW forum. That's 1 out of 4. Better luck next time.

So you're out there actively campaigning to make changes? Then good on you. Now what about everyone else who shares your views but don't do that? My statement isn't strictly about you.

I don't consider paying for prison to be a burden on society. It's a necessary part of an imperfect society.

If prisons actually did something beyond be glorified day-cares for bad guys, I'd agree. But until then they're wasting my money on stupid shit.

Compensate them somehow. Give them extra recreation hours, or cigarettes (that's a commodity in prison), or extra visiting hours, or money to buy things from outside of prison that can be brought into the prison (within reason -- nothing dangerous). That makes sure they're not being exploited. When you use them as slaves, as you said, it's exploitation.

Now I'm done.

Why should we compensate them? Is the idea of punishment alien to you? They broke the law, they committed a crime, this is PUNISHMENT. They are repaying society by working for it. Why should we compensate them for that? This isn't a job. They aren't volunteering for this. They are being punished for causing harm to others.

They also whipped them or threw them into holes in the ground as punishment, if they didn't outright kill them for disobedience. I doubt many people would approve of that. Plus, you start using convicts for slave labor, others will want to use others for it and we'll repeat history all over again.

We have something better then slave labor, it's called community service.

If they try to run away they got shot, or captured, whichever is easier. Same as if they tried to make a break for it today. They get punished for such acts. This is punishment, they broke the law and are being punished for it by helping the society they once hurt. It shouldn't be volunteer work, it shouldn't be a slap on the wrist. It's punishment.

So you're saying they are also laws, but not the laws you're talking about (criminal law).

I am saying they are not laws that deal with those who break laws. So yes, pretty much. I did not specify so that was my mistake.

 

[Green Ranger]

Yeah, we're done here.