New Timeline: Dawn of the Republic

[Beta12]

@Horizon @Vulpes @Tsunami

Hey guys! I think in another thread, one of the question threads back when the concept for the timeline was announced @Brandon Rhea said something about the Mandolorians not being a thing, at least in the way that they are this timeline. The whole separation between the Expanded Universe and newly christened Disney Official Canon has made much of what we know about Mando's, outside of the clone wars tv show, a very big gray area.

From what it sounds like, at least the concept of Mando's, was or is being reworked or fleshed out for the new timeline. Mainly because of some of the problems of how some were roleplayed in this time, and the different portrayals they have had in the expanded universe, like the death-machine uber-stronk ones in Karen Traviss' novels.

 

[Tsunami]

@Vulpes + @Horizon

It's good to hear that the Mandalorians have such a big following here. However for the first time on any site I've been n previously there seems to be a chance for the Mandalorians to compete, rather than be a bunch of scattered bounty hunters and thugs. Not to say that the roleplay of Mandalorians as BH's is stupid, they fit the role amazingly well, I've just always been of the opinion there could be something much more structured. Just something that finally they rally to and unite under a single banner again.

 

[Tsunami]

@Beta12

If clone wars is cannon, then their must be mandalorians. Maybe not the same as those who came through the old republic era, however the principles outlined in the show the clone wars are almost the exact same as those we had before, they were just a lot less in depth due to the focus being not on them, but the diplomatics behind them.

I also think that when you take away the sci-fi aspect from the mandalorians, put them on planet earth and tell them to go about their way of life here, I think most of them would find their way into the special forces. Not into terrorist organisations or into petty thugs with no honor. I also personally feel that being a mandalorian is all about training, its a mindset. No matter where you live in reality or fiction you could obtain such.

That to me is the most appealing part of them, the realism and bravery that normal people could overcome the greatest of disadvantages, band together and fight against something as powerful as the force. And sometimes win.

 

[Vulpes]

@Tsunami

The Mandalorians are definitely canon. The Clone Wars gave us The New Mandalorians, a pacifistic ruling faction. They also gave us Death Watch, which is more akin to how we know them as warriors. The big issue here though is the timeline is set so far ahead of the Clone Wars, and the 'New' Mandalorians are implied to of risen during the Clone Wars.

If I had to place my bets, I'd bet that they would be more Warrior-esque, especially if the sacking of Coruscant is part of the canon, still. Purely because of the mess and controversy that's occasionally risen up from the Mandalorian factions this timeline, I'm not sure yet if the staff plans on having a set direction for them yet, or if it's going to User-generated. I'm sure there are at least two or three people who have write-ups already for a Mandalorian faction, though, seeing as how it's likely the most popular 'non-main' faction.

Edit: According to the non-canon Essential Guide to Warfare, the New Mandalorians have actually been around for around 700 years. Still, it's a legends reference book, and we're going about a thousand years back, so it still wouldn't apply.

 

[Tsunami]

@Brandon Rhea or @Green Ranger

Are either of you able to shed some light on this? Ironically this change in the storyline would force me to totally revamp my Bounty Hunter's Guild Character.

 

[Richie B.]

@Tsunami the reason mandalorians won't be talked about a lot is because at least in the past they have been not a reliable factor in the timeline. Ex a) the mandaloirans were originally were support the alliance (the republic in the pervious timeline) yet in the end they betrayed them, and there has been problems with mandalorians fighting each other. I am not pointing to any one person but the history as a whole in this site has been less than ideal. So the admins have been trying not to use them as a key point in the timeline (or that is what I have been lead to believe though I could be wrong) though yea they will be doing a arc with the mandalorians stealing the darksaber I think that's the only thing the admins will do with them. For now at least later own the think tank or admins might think of coming up with some thing more with them.

For now my advice start trying to make a clan, or a faction. A simple one at least around the mandalorians. The accord a indie faction that might come up next timeline (depending if it gets accepted but with the support behind it, the accord will most likely be a thing). They have a small mandalorian aspect but that's not their main thing, so if you want something exclusively mandalorian than I suggest making your own.

This is Richie B. Signing out.

 

[Tsunami]

@Benvenu7

Am I aloud to make a faction without being a member of staff?

 

[Ral]

Beta12 is mostly right, only there will be Mandos this coming timeline. With most of the Legends canon (and thus Traviss canon) gone, the Think Tank will have to decide what to do with them this timeline, and work to flesh them out.

Part of the issue this last timeline was that the Mandos weren't clearly defined as what they should be. So there was a lot of issues with different viewpoints and certain people decided to take their own viewpoints and act on them. Thus creating the first Mando civil war. There's also a lot of other things that happened which caused things to go sideways from their original intent for this timeline.

As for what role the Mandos will have this next timeline, that's for the Think Tank to decide. The only thing the admins have decided thus far is that they want to recreate the dark saber theft. Once the think tank starts rolling, we'll probably find out more information on them.

I'm going to be working on a Mando faction of my own, or at least helping the Mandos. My suggestion is to just be patient and wait until the think tank gets some more information out about the Mandos. As it would be unfortunate to start working on something then learn you can't do something because the think tank decided to go in the other direction. All we know about the Mandos are that they're warriors from Mandalore and that they have clans and fought the Jedi. It's not a lot to go on and will probably require some fleshing out before the timeline starts.

 

[Richie B.]

@Tsunami anyone can make a faction

 

[Arcangel]

@Tsunami anyone can make a faction

While anyone can make a faction i wouldlike to add that the site doesn't really need a half dozen Mandalorian factions running around. Historically speaking it hasnt been good for the site or the Mandalorian player community as a whole to have a bunch of indie Mandalorian factions.

@Tsunami

 

[Tsunami]

Alright well, I guess I'll stall the possibility of roleplaying as a Mando for now, I'm not doing another Mando degraded to thug/BH bio again ha.

Cheers for the help all.

 

[Silverface]

RE: Mandalorians

Whatever happens in this next timeline, and regardless of if I get into the Think Tank, I'm going to get in touch with Boli, Bac, et al to see what can be done for the Mandalorians, as it's my main thing that I roleplay. This timeline, the huge bulk of my time on the site has been behind the curtain trying to push Mandalorian RP away from honour spouting nonsense and one dimensional roleplaying with mixed results. For the most part, the current end-of-timeline state of the Mandalorians is half messy clusterduck and half hard work from numerous members within the Mandalorian sub-community, notably @Ral Aran and @Loco .

I'm currently poking @Ral Aran about stuff as well, trying to coax some kind of commitment out of him but he's being a git. You git.

 

[Jax Vos]

@Tsunami

The Mandalorians are definitely canon. The Clone Wars gave us The New Mandalorians, a pacifistic ruling faction. They also gave us Death Watch, which is more akin to how we know them as warriors. The big issue here though is the timeline is set so far ahead of the Clone Wars, and the 'New' Mandalorians are implied to of risen during the Clone Wars.

If I had to place my bets, I'd bet that they would be more Warrior-esque, especially if the sacking of Coruscant is part of the canon, still. Purely because of the mess and controversy that's occasionally risen up from the Mandalorian factions this timeline, I'm not sure yet if the staff plans on having a set direction for them yet, or if it's going to User-generated. I'm sure there are at least two or three people who have write-ups already for a Mandalorian faction, though, seeing as how it's likely the most popular 'non-main' faction.

Edit: According to the non-canon Essential Guide to Warfare, the New Mandalorians have actually been around for around 700 years. Still, it's a legends reference book, and we're going about a thousand years back, so it still wouldn't apply.

Well, if I were going to use the Mandalorians, I would first think of them as a war culture similar to the Klingons in Star Trek (sorry to all anti-Trek people here) and then take from the Legends sources that focus on Madalorian culture. Additionally, I would also make sure to use the idea of the Mandalore with the possibility of the Taung origin being hinted at, but not necessarily confirmed due to the species being as yet non-canon.

 

[Vulpes]

Bare in mind that we aren't going to be purely Canon. We're going to of course pull from legends a bit, as well as fanon material. It's up to the Staff and Think Tank to pick and choose what Legends material we focus on.

 

[Jax Vos]

I do realize this, but I was saying that I would use more of Legends than most would think of using for other factions.

 

[Ral]

Well, if I were going to use the Mandalorians, I would first think of them as a war culture similar to the Klingons in Star Trek (sorry to all anti-Trek people here) and then take from the Legends sources that focus on Madalorian culture. Additionally, I would also make sure to use the idea of the Mandalore with the possibility of the Taung origin being hinted at, but not necessarily confirmed due to the species being as yet non-canon.

I cannot understate how much I loathe this idea.

 

[Loco]

I cannot understate how much I loathe this idea.

It could not possibly end well.

 

[Kiro]

Well, if I were going to use the Mandalorians, I would first think of them as a war culture similar to the Klingons in Star Trek (sorry to all anti-Trek people here) and then take from the Legends sources that focus on Madalorian culture. Additionally, I would also make sure to use the idea of the Mandalore with the possibility of the Taung origin being hinted at, but not necessarily confirmed due to the species being as yet non-canon.

Klingons are as close to Mandalorians as Teletubbies are to Godzilla. In other words, not at all.

The one real-life culture I'd compare Mandalorians to would be Anglo-Saxon and the Norse ("Viking") Germanic cultures. They're as close to Mandalorian as you're gonna get outside Star Wars. Using Klingons as a comparison is a horrible idea. They're a species that has a horribly corrupt political system that governs everything, extremely religious, and just... yeah, not a good comparison at all.

 

[Saul]

If I were going to add Mandalorians... they'd be a subset of another faction. Because they always have been, one way or the other, unofficially.

 

[Outlander]

If I were going to add Mandalorians... they'd be a subset of another faction. Because they always have been, one way or the other, unofficially.

Not really. They've been allied often, yes. But they've never actually been integrated into a faction. And there are plenty of times both in Canon and in Legends where they have been out for their own gain or just straight neutral.