Request for another Admin Feedback Thread

[GABA]

Everyone is more than welcome to join with Kyrene in a story.
And I feel like you're generalizing, Jab.

 

[Bee]

The admins are involved by default. They have to read every thread that gets reported for a ruling, approve any and all major plots that get posted to the hall of leaders, deal with the he-said-she-said drama of running a website full of teenagers, and then deal with name changes, broken sub-accounts, switching permissions for AFLs that get rotated in and out on a monthly basis, and so on.

Maybe there's a reason why some of them don't get involved ICly, or to the lengths that people believe they should. Just because a blue (or red) name isn't neck deep in PvP threads doesn't mean they're ignorant to the site and its story.

 

[Jessica Cloud]

I'm not gonna be anyone's RP mascot to boost morale/entice them to participate. That seems like a pretty hefty weight to put on the shoulders of anyone, let alone the ones who keep the site running.

It is my hope and prayer that every Admin do and feel likewise. Good on you Bee.

Indeed. If moral is to be considered a priority at this time? Then let all further suggestions rest squarely upon the shoulders of the members themselves. Let them not ask for change. Let them be, the change.

Alike. If any member or admin discover a barrier to the limits of their own personal initiative in righting this ship? Let them speak also. That the members themselves might be empowered into the vehicles of their own solutions. Let the member work for his bread and let him claim it also.

 

[Outlander]

I just find it somewhat quirky that, for the most part, most of the admin team for an RP site don't feel the need to RP.

 

[Jabonicus]

Everyone is more than welcome to join with Kyrene in a story.
And I feel like you're generalizing, Jab.

I don't believe I am. I've seen two admins RPing on a consistent basis, you being one of them. I know the exceptions, and I consider them when I make my post, I simply don't consider them relevant enough.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

I think everyone's made their point on this and both sides are grandstanding now. Let's move on from this particular point of discussion since it's going around in circles. Your feedback on this point is certainly understood, at least by me (since I can't speak for anyone else).

 

[Bee]

I just find it somewhat quirky that, for the most part, most of the admin team for an RP site don't feel the need to RP.

I mean, most of them do - just apparently not to the satisfaction of some, which is kind of ridiculous. This site isn't a job, no one is being paid or making money here. None of us signed a contract saying we would post X threads a month and be virtual babysitters under pain of death.

If an admin's duty is to keep the site running smoothly, why should any of them be penalized for making that a priority over fun? If an admin chooses to RP instead of do their duties, its suddenly "the admins are inactive and ignore us!" but if they take their roles seriously, oh no, they aren't writing enough! There's literally no way to win, short of people minding their own business.

 

[Outlander]

I mean, most of them do - just apparently not to the satisfaction of some, which is kind of ridiculous. This site isn't a job, no one is being paid or making money here. None of us signed a contract saying we would post X threads a month and be virtual babysitters under pain of death.

If an admin's duty is to keep the site running smoothly, why should any of them be penalized for making that a priority over fun? If an admin chooses to RP instead of do their duties, its suddenly "the admins are inactive and ignore us!" but if they take their roles seriously, oh no, they aren't writing enough! There's literally no way to win, short of people minding their own business.

I disagree somewhat heavily on that, at least on your views of admins and their relation to the site. But I feel going through the admins individually and getting their RP statistics would just cause so much strife and would bring nothing of real value to the conversation.

 

[GABA]

You know what, I think I got this figured out...

you all just want us admins to write more because you love our RPs and just swoon over our writing <3 ;D

 

[Toska]

Recall that admins are not allowed to take faction leadership positions or be too involved lest they get accused of puppeting the factions or controlling the story.

 

[Outlander]

Recall that admins are not allowed to take faction leadership positions or be too involved lest they get accused of puppeting the factions or controlling the story.

So?

 

[Brandon Rhea]

I think everyone's made their point on this and both sides are grandstanding now. Let's move on from this particular point of discussion since it's going around in circles. Your feedback on this point is certainly understood, at least by me (since I can't speak for anyone else).

.

 

[Elijah Brockway]

All I want to know is why it says I was tagged in this thread.

 

[Raydo]

You know what, I think I got this figured out...

you all just want us admins to write more because you love our RPs and just swoon over our writing <3 ;D

Actually it's because if we can take the fun out of writing, we can make your lives more miserable. This is real goal of an SWRPer.

 

[StormWolf]

I just find it somewhat quirky that, for the most part, most of the admin team for an RP site don't feel the need to RP.

You'll find this is the case on about half of the RP sites you go to. The other half will have the Staff Characters being the main characters and the players really don't matter. I prefer a staff that administrates over a staff that marginalizes their playerbase. As someone who has done tours of duty as staff on other RP sites, I will say that any staffer who does their job (even in half measures) will not RP that much (assuming they also are working a full-time job in teh RLz).
Many of our staff have RP'd in the past, and if they don't RP now, it is because of a less-than-tasteful experience. As it stands, the Admins don't owe the players anything beyond keeping the site running, and if they really want to, they can stop paying upkeep and let the site collapse. Demanding they RP on top of all the Admin garbage is just plain asinine.

 

[RedneckLoves]

Just to shortly profess my own opinion on the matter - Yes Brandon I know, but I wasn't around last night! :P -

I am beyond grateful to every single one of the admins who keep this wonderful site running smoothly on a day to day basis. I have never once felt that I was being ignored by them or that they're not doing enough to be members of the community, or anything like that.

@Brandon Rhea @GABA GABA HEY @Bee @Green Ranger @Dmitri @Clayton @Padmé and @Kiro - Thank you all so much for everything you do for us. Know that I, at least, have never taken it for granted and have never expected any more of you.

I am quite excited and glad to see any and all of you writing with us, but would never demand that you participate for the sake of members who should be boosting their own morale.

That is all.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

I wanted to let you all know that we're currently discussing the addition of more mods. We are looking at 1-2 RP mods ("battle mods" as they were called earlier) and at least 1 additional mod for the profile submissions areas. What the "battle mod" role will entail is part of the discussion. If you have any suggestions for what that role should be (note: not who should be in it, just what the role should be), please share!

Because despite what some admins might have suggested, intentionally or not, earlier in this thread, I do agree with many of you that more mods are needed. I think I said this earlier but, in particular, one thing that irks me is how long it takes to resolve reports a lot of the time. Especially when combat threads time out. If we're imposing a time limit on members via the battle rules, then it's only fair that you should expect a pretty quick turnaround time from us in making the ruling. Waiting sometimes up to a week for a ruling isn't fair.

So yeah, if you have any feedback on what the mod role should be like, let us know.

 

[Logan]

I wanted to let you all know that we're currently discussing the addition of more mods. We are looking at 1-2 RP mods ("battle mods" as they were called earlier) and at least 1 additional mod for the profile submissions areas. What the "battle mod" role will entail is part of the discussion. If you have any suggestions for what that role should be (note: not who should be in it, just what the role should be), please share!

Because despite what some admins might have suggested, intentionally or not, earlier in this thread, I do agree with many of you that more mods are needed. I think I said this earlier but, in particular, one thing that irks me is how long it takes to resolve reports a lot of the time. Especially when combat threads time out. If we're imposing a time limit on members via the battle rules, then it's only fair that you should expect a pretty quick turnaround time from us in making the ruling. Waiting sometimes up to a week for a ruling isn't fair.

So yeah, if you have any feedback on what the mod role should be like, let us know.

Battle-mods would be an insanely good idea.

I think their only real responsibilities should be resolving OOC disputes and making final rulings in regards to threads containing PvP. They don't have to solely rely on the report button either as a lot of people try to avoid that while still disagreeing. It should be their purview to keep an eye on OOC's and mitigate hostilities even before it comes down to a straight report.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Battle-mods would be an insanely good idea.

I think their only real responsibilities should be resolving OOC disputes and making final rulings in regards to threads containing PvP. They don't have to solely rely on the report button either as a lot of people try to avoid that while still disagreeing. It should be their purview to keep an eye on OOC's and mitigate hostilities even before it comes down to a straight report.

Personally I would encourage a report anyway just because it helps with "record keeping," so to speak, but the battle mod could always report a post just to get it on the record if they see something they feel they should step in on. But we would also need/want specific criteria for when to step in on something. Otherwise that could get inconsistent.

 

[Prudence]

I'm honestly really excited to hear that you're considering these new mods. I think all of them are needed - the content submission areas have horrendous wait times that stifle creativity in and of themselves, and the same could be said for the report times for battles.

As far as a battle mod goes, I think they should be in charge of a variety of things. I think these should be the people you bring your espionage plots to, so that those can be monitored and handled appropriately. I also think that when you are planning a mission or battle, even secretly, one should be encouraged to coordinate with the battle mod so that they can monitor the threads that are leading up to the battle and ensure everything is above board and legit before you try to use empion mines to pull someone out of hyperspace and learn they're illegal get to the time for your main battle and something is screwed up. I echo what relent said, in that these guys should be responsible for handling ooc disputes, and rulings, as far as pvp goes.