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[Gian Greydragon]

@Faster Than Light @vamp @Faded Truth @Denzein


Just gonna set this up real fast.


Also, @Faster Than Light this is not a formal complaint on you, but if I read your post correctly, it looked like you were using two Force abilities, in that you were drawing the Force in on yourself, and then trying to conceal your Force Signature simultaneously. If that's the case, that's technically using two Force abilities at the same time.

 

[The Good Doctor]

@Faster Than Light @vamp @Faded Truth @Denzein


Just gonna set this up real fast.


Also, @Faster Than Light this is not a formal complaint on you, but if I read your post correctly, it looked like you were using two Force abilities, in that you were drawing the Force in on yourself, and then trying to conceal your Force Signature simultaneously. If that's the case, that's technically using two Force abilities at the same time.

Actually, I was just stating that due to Faded characters aura and magick thing she has going on, my character shouldn’t be immediately detectable through the Force. I apologize if that’s not clear

 

[Gian Greydragon]

Actually, I was just stating that due to Faded characters aura and magick thing she has going on, my character shouldn’t be immediately detectable through the Force. I apologize if that’s not clear

I've never heard of that being a thing. I'm just asking you choose between concealing your signature or drawing the Force to yourself, because my understanding of the Force is you can't do both until you're like, level 3.

 

[The Good Doctor]

Yep, just to be clear, My character’s only force-releated action is drawing the force to myself. My character isn’t doing a second action to conceal it.

Force sense is already isn’t perfect (it’s not a radar) and with Faded’s heavy presence I shouldn’t be singled out by other characters force senses. Or at least as I imagine it.

 

[Gian Greydragon]

I've just never heard of someone else's Force Signature dampening the presence of another. This is literally the first time I've heard of any of that.

 

[The Good Doctor]

It’s less that it’s dampening mine and more that you would be drawn to hers first before me.

If it’s an issue I can adjust my post

 

[Gian Greydragon]

Okay, that makes a little more sense to me. I just wanted to clear the air of any misunderstanding. No worries.

 

[vamp]

Don't forget to tag @christhebarker!

 

[Faded]

Hello all, this thread is getting exciting.
@Faster Than Light @vamp @christhebarker @Gian Greydragon @Denzein

Since combat has somewhat started, let’s get an idea of proper positioning. Vamp and Chris, I don’t believe we decided on a range of distance between the door and the Sith. So we need to discuss that.

FTL can you clarify your position, the post was a bit confusing as to which side you are on. Are you behind a side door and this looking at Arianna and Wes?

 

[The Good Doctor]

Hello all, this thread is getting exciting.
@Faster Than Light @vamp @christhebarker @Gian Greydragon @Denzein

Since combat has somewhat started, let’s get an idea of proper positioning. Vamp and Chris, I don’t believe we decided on a range of distance between the door and the Sith. So we need to discuss that.

FTL can you clarify your position, the post was a bit confusing as to which side you are on. Are you behind a side door and this looking at Arianna and Wes?

I edited my post a little. You're 15 meters in front of me and added I'm facing your left side. And yeah, opening a side door, and would have visual of both of Ari and Wes. And I put in my post i'm 10 meters away from Wes.

 

[Denzein]

Pierre would see the Old Empire Crusader 15 meters in directly front of him (facing her left side), and to his left the other Imperial Republica Sith 10 meters on his front diagonally to his right side.

It's probably me, but I'm reading that as if the other IR are to your left, diagonally in front, to your right - which can't be correct surely - doesn't need editing unless that's how you're reading it too, are they to your left or your right though? @Faster Than Light

 

[The Good Doctor]

Pierre would see the Old Empire Crusader 15 meters in directly front of him (facing her left side), and to his left the other Imperial Republica Sith 10 meters on his front diagonally to his right side.

It's probably me, but I'm reading that as if the other IR are to your left, diagonally in front, to your right - which can't be correct surely - doesn't need editing unless that's how you're reading it too, are they to your left or your right though? @Faster Than Light

I honestly don't know how I put left in regards to the other IR's position. x.x I meant to have they are on my right side. Edited! Should be fixed now. Let me know if that makes a bit more sense.

 

[christhebetrayer]

hey @Faded Truth, I disagree with how you are sensing us, I agree that you would be able to sense 3 individuals moving but I what a disagree with is that you would know they were hostile towards you unless you were familiar with each individual 'aura' and their allegiance and I don't if you would be able to properly sense us while using the summoned weapon as I can't find anything in the write up if it needs some form concentration/constant use of the force or not, and Zarya wouldn't have activated her saber until just before it left her hand.

also @Denzein, the saber throw would be more or less a straight throw then pulled back after going past troopers back rather than a wide loop.

 

[Faded]

@christhebarker

Force users can identify the presence of other force users if their signature isn’t concealed. Other dark sided users in the area and approaching close would be hostile as other OE were not assigned to be present on this mission.

As for the lightsaber you said you readied it prior to the doors opening and once they opened you threw it. There was no mention of igniting it as you threw it.

“She checked her Armour and readied her saberstaff. When the doors opened, she immediately through her saberstaff at the 4 Troopers”.

That is an excerpt from your post, I understand your point but your post is not written to reflect what you intended.

As for the conjured weapon, I can see if we can get a lore moderator clarification but if I recall correctly it’s a one time use to summon the weapon.

@Faster Than Light @Gian Greydragon @vamp @Denzein

 

[Denzein]

@christhebarker No worries, I misunderstood where the troopers were - thought they were behind us but I forgot we turned to face you so they'd be in front. I'll edit my post now!


EDIT: Edited, should be ok now?

 

[christhebetrayer]

Force users can identify the presence of other force users if their signature isn’t concealed. Other dark sided users in the area and approaching close would be hostile as other OE were not assigned to be present.

As for the lightsaber you said you readied it prior to the doors opening and once they opened you threw it. There was no mention of igniting it as you threw it.

As for the conjured weapon, I can see if we can get a lore moderator clarification but if I recall correctly it’s a one time use to summon the weapon.

I still a disagree, Vader could only tell Luke was strong in the force not a force user, for all she knew we could be staff, guards etc, that had a strong connection and i believe she would need to be concentration on her sense to detect dark side since I don't think we would have much of taint since we are level one Acolytes, I know for fact my Sith hasn't called upon the dark side yet due to her philosophy but I can't speak for other. in other words she passively sensing them and wouldn't have access to the amount of info she does without actively looking for them with her senses which you didn't state she was doing in your previous post. so she could feel new signatures approaching in general and then maybe focus on them through force to determine alignment, other than that I disagree she can passively determine the alignment of a low-level force user since there a smaller signature within the force

as for the lightsaber, I do admit I was vague their and should of be more clear of my intent but for me readied and ignited are two different things and state them as such, ready for me is in hand and ready to be ignited. also, this part is getting into the nitpicky area which the mods are looking down so probably best go with my intent

 

[christhebetrayer]

@Denzein yeah that's looks good to me

 

[Faded]

I still a disagree, Vader could only tell Luke was strong in the force not a force user, for all she knew we could be staff, guards etc, that had a strong connection and i believe she would need to be concentration on her sense to detect dark side since I don't think we would have much of taint since we are level one Acolytes, I know for fact my Sith hasn't called upon the dark side yet due to her philosophy but I can't speak for other. in other words she passively sensing them and wouldn't have access to the amount of info she does without actively looking for them with her senses which you didn't state she was doing in your previous post. so she could feel new signatures approaching in general and then maybe focus on them through force to determine alignment, other than that I disagree she can passively determine the alignment of a low-level force user since there a smaller signature within the force

as for the lightsaber, I do admit I was vague their and should of be more clear of my intent but for me readied and ignited are two different things and state them as such, ready for me is in hand and ready to be ignited. also, this part is getting into the nitpicky area which the mods are looking down so probably best go with my intent

As a friendly reminder, PvP is based on details and the ability to exploit weaknesses in your opponent's defense. Intent has nothing to do with it; the way your post is written suggests that either you prepared the saberstaff prior to the doors opening or you threw an un-ignited blade. As for the sensing, your character is stronger than Luke was in Episode IV, he was barely learning the force. Zarya is a fully trained Sith Acolyte, her signature would be tainting and recognizable unless you purposely hid it. You're not sneaking up on a Level 2 Force User when you yourself are a FS. In either case, most of these are moot points; these technicalities do not affect the outcome of this PvP if you devise a legitimate defense.

 

[The Good Doctor]

Just for clarification for future reference perhaps. Lets remember that the Force is not a radar. A level 1 Dark Sider would have to be actively using the Force (like my person by the end of my post) to be picked by their force signature (unless you start meditating). For example, a Jedi can't just walk into a bar that happens to have a random dark sider just having a drink in it and say 'Dark Side aura!' (unless it's a high level dark sider that just reeks of it just by existing) And even then, as the force isn't a radar, someone wouldn't be able to pinpoint their exact locations (i'm not sure if this part is beign disputed as I just skimmed the OOC)

 

[Faded]

Just for clarification for future reference perhaps. Lets remember that the Force is not a radar. A level 1 Dark Sider would have to be actively using the Force (like my person by the end of my post) to be picked by their force signature (unless you start meditating). For example, a Jedi can't just walk into a bar that happens to have a random dark sider just having a drink in it and say 'Dark Side aura!' (unless it's a high level dark sider that just reeks of it just by existing) And even then, as the force isn't a radar, someone wouldn't be able to pinpoint their exact locations (i'm not sure if this part is beign disputed as I just skimmed the OOC)

I'm not certain I agree with you @Faster Than Light .

Practitioners of their chosen Force paths rely on their ability to sense the world around them. To be able to sense is a meaning that is beyond the physical senses of sight, taste, hearing, touch, and smell. It could be described as a paranormal experience where a Force user is able to detect changes in the waves of the Force to alert them of changes in environment or notification of certain individuals in their presence. Those closest to the Force User are even known to pick up when friends, family, or comrades are in danger light years across the galaxy.

This sense ability also allows Force Sensitives to detect changes in a being’s intentions, to determine lies from truths, and even give them the ability to see near and beyond the future as described in visions. They can even manipulate their own presence to hide from visual sight or to avoid detection by enemy Force Users.

In addition, Force Users are able to enhance their natural physical senses of sight or hearing in order to guide themselves around obstacles or hear the faintest whispers in a noisy Cantina. These abilities can allow some to understand unknown languages or communicate on a primal and emotional level with non-sentient beasts. Some may suggest it as a form of telepathy, but it can be better described as understanding the influence of intentions by the individual or beast.

That is an excerpt from the Force guidelines in the Rules section; it certainly seems to me that the presence of other force signatures would be noticeable in close vicinity. That is why players have elected to purposely state that their force signatures are hidden when attempt to arrive unnoticed. The statement in bold reflects what I said previously, lack of being detected requires a constant effort which was not utilized.