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I'm not certain I agree with you @Faster Than Light .

Practitioners of their chosen Force paths rely on their ability to sense the world around them. To be able to sense is a meaning that is beyond the physical senses of sight, taste, hearing, touch, and smell. It could be described as a paranormal experience where a Force user is able to detect changes in the waves of the Force to alert them of changes in environment or notification of certain individuals in their presence. Those closest to the Force User are even known to pick up when friends, family, or comrades are in danger light years across the galaxy.

This sense ability also allows Force Sensitives to detect changes in a being’s intentions, to determine lies from truths, and even give them the ability to see near and beyond the future as described in visions. They can even manipulate their own presence to hide from visual sight or to avoid detection by enemy Force Users.

In addition, Force Users are able to enhance their natural physical senses of sight or hearing in order to guide themselves around obstacles or hear the faintest whispers in a noisy Cantina. These abilities can allow some to understand unknown languages or communicate on a primal and emotional level with non-sentient beasts. Some may suggest it as a form of telepathy, but it can be better described as understanding the influence of intentions by the individual or beast.


That is an excerpt from the Force guidelines in the Rules section; it certainly seems to me that the presence of other force signatures would be noticeable in close vicinity. That is why players have elected to purposely state that their force signatures are hidden when attempt to arrive unnoticed. The statement in bold reflects what I said previously, lack of being detected requires a constant effort which was not utilized.

http://www.thestarwarsrp.com/forum/index.php?threads/new-force-guidelines.77882/

We still adhere to these guidelines for force sense (i've grabbed the Jedi walking into a bar example directly from that) and I've spoke with another member of staff on this.

I'll leave this to @christhebarker on if he wants to discuss this further or not.
 

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I've made my edit, it doesn't change the outcome much given that Harren was actively sensing (hence him not doing much this round) - I figure Pierre would be hard to single out, being just one guy not trying to do a whole lot, but the other two he'd feel coming, with a second or so to spare at least.

Let me know if that meets with your guys' approval!

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Zarya was, for now, perfectly safe, except for the blaster bolts coming her way. By that time she would have her lightsaber ready to deflect though, so Wes focused on himself now.

Just a clarification, the bolts are in the air while her lightsaber is already thrown - so whatever defence is made needs to take that into account. Vamp said this is all good, just putting it here for posterity. Mind removing the reference to her getting her blade back until she does somehow?

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Zarya was, for now, perfectly safe, except for the blaster bolts coming her way. By that time she would have her lightsaber ready to deflect though, so Wes focused on himself now.

Just a clarification, the bolts are in the air while her lightsaber is already thrown - so whatever defence is made needs to take that into account. Vamp said this is all good, just putting it here for posterity.

@Faded Truth @Gian Greydragon @vamp @christhebarker @Faster Than Light

I'm willing to roll with what @christhebarker thinks. Otherwise, it's all good.
 

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@christhebarker @vamp

Just a heads up, dudes, the bolts would have been substantially faster than the spear. After reading both of your posts, it looked to me, @Denzein and @Faded Truth that you two were under the assumption that the spear would make contact before the bolts. This doesn't change much PvP-wise, just the sequence of events. Vamp's defense of the spear is solid, because he was shot at after Zarya, as well as his deflection and evading of the bolts fired at him. We can hold off posting if either of you want to make any edits, but as far as I'm concerned, the defense-to-damage is fair to me.
 

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okay @Gian Greydragon, I disagree with the timing that you would get to the saberstaff first, as you mentioned it went behind him so he would have to turn around, look for it then pull it to him. Meanwhile, Zarya would only have to feel for something very familiar to her, as the kyber crystal has been bent to her will. I think they would both find it and pull it to each over at the same time.

also @Faded Truth, Zarya is by the edge of the door frame on the opposite side of the wall to Arianna, so she's behind cover.
 

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@christhebarker

So a level one force use requires line of sight to use force powers. Therefore If you are on the other side of the wall, you wouldn’t be able to draw your saber.
 

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I have line of sight, compared to your post, which depends on the connection between Zarya and it's crystal. Compounded with the fact that you'd just gotten shot, and would have to draw on that pain to bolster your force, you've got two points against your use of the Force. I'm justified in my use of the Force.
 

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@Gian Greydragon I'm not arguing your use of the force just your timing and she pretty much mediating which bolsters your senses combined with the fact she looking for something she has a connection with which is attuned to the Force itself. while she had been shot it wouldn't hamper her in a real way as the shots hit armour and as it was light damage it only does moderate discomfort through armour.
 

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@christhebarker

So actually after re-reading your post, you are correct. You do say that you jumped towards the edge of the door frame and then said "in cover" meaning you are behind it. So this will change my post and Ill put up edits soon. However, keep in mind that you cannot use force powers without line of sight. So while you are standing behind it with eyes closed, is the time where Niish can easily call the saber to himself as you have no draw upon it.

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You still have no line of sight. Connection to an object does not equate to line of sight. You dove behind cover while dropping your lightsaber, mid-throw, so you have no IC way of knowing how it flew after you let it go. Level Ones require line of sight to use a force ability, and it'll take more time to 'meditate' than that same post. We're all level ones here, with the exception of Arianna.
 
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