The Sequel Trilogy: Your Ideas?
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Don't look at it as stretching it out into three movies - Star Wars films are episodes and are supposed to be somewhat self-contained. Take key pivotal moments from the storyline of your idea and break it down that way.
Our ideas so far are literally:
"Old main characters are old. Feeling the pressure of leadership, they pass on their legacies to characters seemingly insignificant in the grand scheme of things, in order to route out a new shadowy threat."
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There's also nuance in our ideas thus far. You could very well boil down the OT into that kind of sentence too.
I wouldn't have expected us to have come up with a fully fleshed out trilogy after less than 24 hours.
Yes I would. Yes. I. Would.
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Speak for yourself, bro. I actually pretty much have a whole trilogy sketched out.
....good for you?
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I have rough ideas that could span three films, but I don't have a trilogy yet. I can do this sort of thing fast, but not that fast. :p
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Just do the Thrawn saga or the resurrection of the emperor..... makes things a helluva lot easier and would be cool to see either on the screen imo anyways....
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For starters, the resurrection of the Emperor was one of the worst pieces of EU ever put to print.
Secondly, why? A studio doesn't want to do that. Why waste the creative talent, and not to mention hundreds of millions of dollars, on making an adaptation of a series that is widely praised when it likely won't be as good as the written series? Adaptations are virtually never as good as the original, so Disney would only be setting itself up for a disappointed reaction from people.
Not to mention that, creatively speaking, it's better to discard the EU and make a new story. Most of the post-ROTJ EU sucks anyway.
Secondly, why? A studio doesn't want to do that. Why waste the creative talent, and not to mention hundreds of millions of dollars, on making an adaptation of a series that is widely praised when it likely won't be as good as the written series? Adaptations are virtually never as good as the original, so Disney would only be setting itself up for a disappointed reaction from people.
Not to mention that, creatively speaking, it's better to discard the EU and make a new story. Most of the post-ROTJ EU sucks anyway.
You could have it so that in a flashback at the beginning of the film, Luke could possibly be on an expedition to explore an ancient Jedi temple with some potential students. During some sort of cave in, he could lose half of them before escaping. Teaching him a lesson, that certain histories are better off forgotten and not dug up.
Those lost students could then possibly be revealed as the 'big bads'. Having fallen into an ancient Sith archive or something to that effect.
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So the first film intro would amount to something like...
...an opening shot of the stars of course, before panning down to an orbiting shot of an unknown planet, the camera slowly cuts closer and closer to the surface, until begins moving through jungles and ancient temples, before finally reaching two men walking through an enormous military encampment.
They are discussing the mundane tasks that lie ahead with one man having just arrived, revealing that this planet is in fact Endor and that they are what is left of the Rebellion that ended the Palpatine dictatorship. That one man is revealed to be that of Han Solo, a reformed smuggler, now a high ranking official within this rag tag militia. The other is a moderately new recruit, the two clearly share a kind of brotherly admiration for one another as they tease one another about various things.
Their laughter is cut short, by a sudden attack from unknown assailants. The camp is obliterated within seconds, Ewok villages are burned to the ground, no rebel prisoners are taken. Few evacuation ships remain as Han manages to fend off what can only be made out as shadows, it is as if the enemy itself is invisible. Han is mortally wounded, grabs the young rookie by the scruff of the neck and pleads with him to go to his wife, Admiral Leia to inform him of this attack, believing himself to responsible as the enemy may have followed him here. He entrusts the rookie with a holo-recording as well. The rookie grabs him by the hand and assures him that he will tell his wife how much he loved her, with his last breath, he insists there is no need, she knows.
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Or, we could begin with the flashback I had mentioned with some kind of sub-title akin too:
As we see a number of cloaked figures entering an ancient temple, revealed to be a number of young students, followed by their teacher, revealed to be an aged Luke Skywalker. They are exploring ancient Jedi structures in the hopes of finding a place to found their New Order, a place they can remain safe and separate from the rest of the galaxy.
As they descend further down into ancient cavernous halls, they suddenly encounter a series of sophisticated booby traps, which causes the cave to become extremely unstable. Half of the expedition suddenly finds themselves falling through the floor itself, into a seemingly endless darkness. Luke reaches out in anguish, clinging to one of the students with the force, but he struggles to keep them within his reach, a look of shear horror cuts through his stern visage, as he drops them suddenly into the darkness.
He begins scrambling backwards, shouting for the students to retreat. As the students begin bombarding him with questions, he remains somewhat quiet, meditating once they have reached a considerable distance from the site.
''Why are we fleeing master?!!!''
''What is wrong?!!!''
''How could you have let her go like that?!!!''
Luke turns, almost menacingly towards the student who asked him the final question, he looks him dead in the eyes and states.
''I did not let her go. She was pulled from me. We must leave this world, quickly, if we are to survive.''
This could mean that in Luke's hope to discover a new path for the Jedi, he instead uncovers some ancient evil of some sort, perhaps even one of the Jedi's oldest enemies of all. Which then seduces his lost students into the dark arts, before using them as tools to enact it's revenge/tasks/destruction of the galaxy or what have you.
Those lost students could then possibly be revealed as the 'big bads'. Having fallen into an ancient Sith archive or something to that effect.
EDIT:
So the first film intro would amount to something like...
...an opening shot of the stars of course, before panning down to an orbiting shot of an unknown planet, the camera slowly cuts closer and closer to the surface, until begins moving through jungles and ancient temples, before finally reaching two men walking through an enormous military encampment.
They are discussing the mundane tasks that lie ahead with one man having just arrived, revealing that this planet is in fact Endor and that they are what is left of the Rebellion that ended the Palpatine dictatorship. That one man is revealed to be that of Han Solo, a reformed smuggler, now a high ranking official within this rag tag militia. The other is a moderately new recruit, the two clearly share a kind of brotherly admiration for one another as they tease one another about various things.
Their laughter is cut short, by a sudden attack from unknown assailants. The camp is obliterated within seconds, Ewok villages are burned to the ground, no rebel prisoners are taken. Few evacuation ships remain as Han manages to fend off what can only be made out as shadows, it is as if the enemy itself is invisible. Han is mortally wounded, grabs the young rookie by the scruff of the neck and pleads with him to go to his wife, Admiral Leia to inform him of this attack, believing himself to responsible as the enemy may have followed him here. He entrusts the rookie with a holo-recording as well. The rookie grabs him by the hand and assures him that he will tell his wife how much he loved her, with his last breath, he insists there is no need, she knows.
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Or, we could begin with the flashback I had mentioned with some kind of sub-title akin too:
Twenty Years after the defeat of the Empire.
As we see a number of cloaked figures entering an ancient temple, revealed to be a number of young students, followed by their teacher, revealed to be an aged Luke Skywalker. They are exploring ancient Jedi structures in the hopes of finding a place to found their New Order, a place they can remain safe and separate from the rest of the galaxy.
As they descend further down into ancient cavernous halls, they suddenly encounter a series of sophisticated booby traps, which causes the cave to become extremely unstable. Half of the expedition suddenly finds themselves falling through the floor itself, into a seemingly endless darkness. Luke reaches out in anguish, clinging to one of the students with the force, but he struggles to keep them within his reach, a look of shear horror cuts through his stern visage, as he drops them suddenly into the darkness.
He begins scrambling backwards, shouting for the students to retreat. As the students begin bombarding him with questions, he remains somewhat quiet, meditating once they have reached a considerable distance from the site.
''Why are we fleeing master?!!!''
''What is wrong?!!!''
''How could you have let her go like that?!!!''
Luke turns, almost menacingly towards the student who asked him the final question, he looks him dead in the eyes and states.
''I did not let her go. She was pulled from me. We must leave this world, quickly, if we are to survive.''
This could mean that in Luke's hope to discover a new path for the Jedi, he instead uncovers some ancient evil of some sort, perhaps even one of the Jedi's oldest enemies of all. Which then seduces his lost students into the dark arts, before using them as tools to enact it's revenge/tasks/destruction of the galaxy or what have you.
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New Year's happened.
Let us resurrect it.
Read my two shitty ideas in the post above my last and comment on them. I shall then comment on those comments and we will conduct a dialogue.
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Oh so that's what I've been doing wrong all these years. :p
I'll read them in a bit.
I'll read them in a bit.
Take The Old Republic route: Whole new cast of characters. Characters from the past six films should only get mentions, but the focus on new characters would be better, and to see where Luke's new jedi order went if they don't disregard that part of EU.
If you take the KOTOR route then you are not making a series of sequels, you are simply making a series of films set in the Star Wars universe, for this new trilogy to make narrative sense, the presence of previous characters and/or plot-lines is absolutely essential.
You can however do just as Bac and I have suggested, by having previous characters present in the films, while still essential to or tied to the plot in some way but only as secondary characters.
