The Sequel Trilogy: Your Ideas?

[Kaeb]

Han Solo Adventures?

Maybe a movie set between attack of the clones and revenge of the sith. Something based off of Outbound Flight? I would love to see Thrawn in a movie.

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[Phil]

Han Solo Adventures?

Maybe a movie set between attack of the clones and revenge of the sith. Something based off of Outbound Flight? I would love to see Thrawn in a movie.

That would fit into a sequel trillogy... how?

 

[Maxx]

I never said anything about sequel.

 

[Matt]

I never said anything about sequel.

Well it's called the Sequel trilogy thread.....

 

[Maxx]

Well it's called the Sequel trilogy thread.....

I've seen other posts not related to sequels.

 

[Matt]

I've seen other posts not related to sequels.

Your's was spectacularly rubbish though.

 

[Kaeb]

I've seen other posts not related to sequels.

Those where also incorrect. Citing ignorance does not erase ignorance.

 

[Matt]

Anyway, moving on.

Don't make em shit Disney.

 

[Kaeb]

We need an iconic black female Star Wars character.

In the Alternates, I've already got one, but **** it I'll throw it out there. In my one, she is a pilot named Ida Callipse, she has short white hair in a kind of punkish style and is a bit of a cold hearted bitch at first. She is a pirate, a thief and is wanted throughout the galaxy. The main characters bump into her while trying to get off world, smuggling themselves aboard her ship.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Take The Old Republic route: Whole new cast of characters. Characters from the past six films should only get mentions, but the focus on new characters would be better, and to see where Luke's new jedi order went if they don't disregard that part of EU.

If the sequel trilogy is successful, and I'm assuming that the sequel trilogy will be somewhat based on the post-1983 sequel ideas (Luke being a Ben Kenobi figure and rebuilding the Jedi), then I would imagine that whatever Disney follows Episode 9 with will go the route you're saying (minus the "don't disregard that part of the EU" part). Episodes 7-9 will likely close out the Skywalker story as we know it, namely Luke Skywalker and Princess Leia, and a second sequel trilogy or a live action TV show set afterward would carry on the adventures of the New Jedi Order and the New Republic after Luke, Leia, and Han are gone.

I would personally go the television route. Let the three trilogies be the film saga (a beginning, a middle, and an end), and continue the saga on television. There's much more room for storytelling in a 22 episode long season with each episode being 40 minutes.

You could have it so that in a flashback at the beginning of the film, Luke could possibly be on an expedition to explore an ancient Jedi temple with some potential students. During some sort of cave in, he could lose half of them before escaping. Teaching him a lesson, that certain histories are better off forgotten and not dug up.

Those lost students could then possibly be revealed as the 'big bads'. Having fallen into an ancient Sith archive or something to that effect.

EDIT:

So the first film intro would amount to something like...

...an opening shot of the stars of course, before panning down to an orbiting shot of an unknown planet, the camera slowly cuts closer and closer to the surface, until begins moving through jungles and ancient temples, before finally reaching two men walking through an enormous military encampment.

They are discussing the mundane tasks that lie ahead with one man having just arrived, revealing that this planet is in fact Endor and that they are what is left of the Rebellion that ended the Palpatine dictatorship. That one man is revealed to be that of Han Solo, a reformed smuggler, now a high ranking official within this rag tag militia. The other is a moderately new recruit, the two clearly share a kind of brotherly admiration for one another as they tease one another about various things.

Their laughter is cut short, by a sudden attack from unknown assailants. The camp is obliterated within seconds, Ewok villages are burned to the ground, no rebel prisoners are taken. Few evacuation ships remain as Han manages to fend off what can only be made out as shadows, it is as if the enemy itself is invisible. Han is mortally wounded, grabs the young rookie by the scruff of the neck and pleads with him to go to his wife, Admiral Leia to inform him of this attack, believing himself to responsible as the enemy may have followed him here. He entrusts the rookie with a holo-recording as well. The rookie grabs him by the hand and assures him that he will tell his wife how much he loved her, with his last breath, he insists there is no need, she knows.

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Or, we could begin with the flashback I had mentioned with some kind of sub-title akin too:

Twenty Years after the defeat of the Empire.​

As we see a number of cloaked figures entering an ancient temple, revealed to be a number of young students, followed by their teacher, revealed to be an aged Luke Skywalker. They are exploring ancient Jedi structures in the hopes of finding a place to found their New Order, a place they can remain safe and separate from the rest of the galaxy.

As they descend further down into ancient cavernous halls, they suddenly encounter a series of sophisticated booby traps, which causes the cave to become extremely unstable. Half of the expedition suddenly finds themselves falling through the floor itself, into a seemingly endless darkness. Luke reaches out in anguish, clinging to one of the students with the force, but he struggles to keep them within his reach, a look of shear horror cuts through his stern visage, as he drops them suddenly into the darkness.

He begins scrambling backwards, shouting for the students to retreat. As the students begin bombarding him with questions, he remains somewhat quiet, meditating once they have reached a considerable distance from the site.

''Why are we fleeing master?!!!''

''What is wrong?!!!''

''How could you have let her go like that?!!!''

Luke turns, almost menacingly towards the student who asked him the final question, he looks him dead in the eyes and states.

''I did not let her go. She was pulled from me. We must leave this world, quickly, if we are to survive.''

This could mean that in Luke's hope to discover a new path for the Jedi, he instead uncovers some ancient evil of some sort, perhaps even one of the Jedi's oldest enemies of all. Which then seduces his lost students into the dark arts, before using them as tools to enact it's revenge/tasks/destruction of the galaxy or what have you.

I like those routes so far, though I wouldn't call Leia an Admiral. She participated in military roles but never had a military rank. She was more of a political and moral leader than a tactical one. If we want to go with the idea of Leia being relegated to irrelevancy within the New Republic, and her having to contend with other people having taken over what she, Luke, and Han brought to life, then there's one obvious role for that: Vice-President. It's a completely irrelevant role, but one that could thrust her back into total leadership if something happened to whoever the President is.

One thing I also like about the flashback idea is that I've always had this idea for a new way to start a Star Wars film. The way it happens now is:

1. 20th Century Fox fanfare (though that will unfortunately go away, unless there's a deal with Disney)
2. Lucasfilm logo
3. A long time ago etc
4. Opening crawl
5. Movie

I had always thought it would be interesting if it went like this:

1. A long time ago etc.
2. Opening teaser (such as your flashback)
3. 20th Century Fox fanfare begins as the scene pans up into space, and the company logos are against a star field
4. Opening crawl
5. Movie

 

[Kaeb]

Seeing as this is the only recent thread about the sequels that we have, I felt the need to inform everyone that nearly every ****ing director worth their salt has turned down Disney when approached to direct this film, it's insane.

Abrams turned it down, Del Toro has now turned it down, Brad Bird even turned it down.

Noone wants to make the movies....this is ****ing fantastic in my opinion.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Read some of their reasons, though, JJ Abrams in particular. JJ Abrams is a fan of Star Wars and wants to enjoy the movie as a fan. Not everyone wants to know how the sausage is made.

Personally, I'd probably have that same feeling (though I'd write it in a heartbeat). Directing Episode 7, after knowing how disappointed people were in every major Star Wars release post-1983, would be incredibly intimidating.

 

[Kaeb]

Read some of their reasons, though, JJ Abrams in particular. JJ Abrams is a fan of Star Wars and wants to enjoy the movie as a fan. Not everyone wants to know how the sausage is made.

Personally, I'd probably have that same feeling (though I'd write it in a heartbeat). Directing Episode 7, after knowing how disappointed people were in every major Star Wars release post-1983, would be incredibly intimidating.

I don't believe any of their ''reasons'', when you study a lot of film history, you find that it's one of the art forms in which you have to watch what you say constantly in the public forum because almost anything can be misconstrued or misinterpreted.

They can't come out and say ''The Prequels sucked. I'm too intimidated by the prospect of trying to make more Star Wars films, also what's the point of making them in the first place? Nothing will ever have the same cultural effect as the originals, it's done, let's move on.''

They have to make their reasons look legitimate in terms of the industry.

''I'm too busy'' is better than ''It sounds like a terrible idea, I'll pass.''

 

[Brandon Rhea]

I'm with you up until "what's the point?" Opinions vary on that, and I think you're reading too much into it. Not to mention reading into it what you want to be reading into it.

You may very well be right. I'm just saying, I don't want anyone to think that's gospel truth or anything.

 

[Kaeb]

I'm with you up until "what's the point?" Opinions vary on that, and I think you're reading too much into it. Not to mention reading into it what you want to be reading into it.

You may very well be right. I'm just saying, I don't want anyone to think that's gospel truth or anything.

It's pretty obvious that it is most likely the truth.

Creatively speaking, it's a bad idea. Culturally speaking, it's a bad idea. In regards to someone's career, it's a bad idea.

Which is why every single high profile director they've approached, has said ''No''.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

It's pretty obvious that it is most likely the truth.

Creatively speaking, it's a bad idea. Culturally speaking, it's a bad idea. In regards to someone's career, it's a bad idea.

Which is why every single high profile director they've approached, has said ''No''.

I don't think it's a bad idea. I hold the original trilogy in high regard, but not some sort of dogmatic "can't touch this" regard. I think this thread has shown that there are still stories that can be told, and the story ideas we've come up with so far are really interesting to me. If I was offered the chance to write them, I'd jump at it. I think they're good and I think they'd be well received.

Expectations will be tempered going into this movie. People know that the prequels sucked. They'll be cautious with this one, which gives the creative team both less pressure and more pressure -- and that's where the intimidation factor comes in.

Is this a franchise that demands a sequel trilogy? No, but very few films demand a sequel. You could argue that the original Star Wars didn't demand a sequel from a creative standpoint, regardless of whatever other ideas Lucas still had and wanted to tell. It had a beginning, middle, and an end, and it could've done just fine as a stand alone film. Nonetheless, a sequel came along and blew people away.

I say all that, in a very rambly fashion, to say that I think a sequel trilogy will ultimately be good for Star Wars. Disney isn't filled with fools, and they know what they're doing. If the film is successful financially and well-received, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of those directors end up regretting their decision.

Plus, anything better than the prequels is going to be labeled the "rebirth of Star Wars." That's a guarantee just based on how the media operates.

 

[Kaeb]

I don't think it's a bad idea.

Personal opinion /=/ fact.

I hold the original trilogy in high regard, but not some sort of dogmatic "can't touch this" regard.

Neither do I, but I'm not approaching it from that perspective, I'm approaching it from a cultural perspective, putting myself outside the fanbase entirely and considering the mainstream. For me personally, the prequels shouldn't even have been made in the first place, even if they had been good, they still wouldn't have the enormous impact that the original trilogy had on our culture.

For me, it's like trying to make a Prequel and then a Sequel, to Citizen Kane. What's the point? You already made a masterpiece, everyone loved it, you made tonnes of money, it's impact on culture is almost immeasurable, why make another one?

There is literally no creative reason to, the only legitimate reason to make more, is for one single purpose.

Greed.

I think this thread has shown that there are still stories that can be told, and the story ideas we've come up with so far are really interesting to me. If I was offered the chance to write them, I'd jump at it. I think they're good and I think they'd be well received.

I'm sure there are a lot of great story ideas people could come up with for the original Power Rangers TV Show, that doesn't mean they should be made into a new TV show sequel/prequel.

Most of the ideas that we've come up with here, or at least the one's we've actually posted, only cover the beginning of a supposed first film, but I still believe that even if we came up with an entirely trilogy and wrote the damn thing, that trying to make films out of them would be pointless, because no matter what, it'll be creatively torn to shreds by the masses.

Expectations will be tempered going into this movie. People know that the prequels sucked. They'll be cautious with this one, which gives the creative team both less pressure and more pressure -- and that's where the intimidation factor comes in.

Again, why make one? I don't think many people want these new films to be honest with you, I think at this point they've just realised they can't stop Hollywood, so they just hope it's not as awful as the prequels. That's hardly an audience bubbling with anticipation is it?

Is this a franchise that demands a sequel trilogy? No, but very few films demand a sequel. You could argue that the original Star Wars didn't demand a sequel from a creative standpoint, regardless of whatever other ideas Lucas still had and wanted to tell. It had a beginning, middle, and an end, and it could've done just fine as a stand alone film. Nonetheless, a sequel came along and blew people away.

Irrelevant, I doubt without Empire and Return of the Jedi that the franchise would have been as impactful as it was.

I say all that, in a very rambly fashion, to say that I think a sequel trilogy will ultimately be good for Star Wars. Disney isn't filled with fools, and they know what they're doing. If the film is successful financially and well-received, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of those directors end up regretting their decision.

Plus, anything better than the prequels is going to be labeled the "rebirth of Star Wars." That's a guarantee just based on how the media operates.

You're being illogically optimistic if I'm being quite honest. Examine the history of this franchise, from both within it and outside of it, and you can see that these sequels are just another metal rod in the anus of the fans waiting to happen.

 

[Sharu]

In the end, perhaps we can all agree on one, potentially good thing.


No Jar Jar.

 

[Marf]

Yes, I know it isn't going to happen, but if it was up to me, they should start in a completely different era to the end of ROTJ and use the existing material from the Expanded Universe. The EU doesn't get nearly as much love as it deserves and since there's so much cool stuff in it, it would be a waste not to use it! I for one actually prefer the EU content over that of the films.

 

[Vindictive]

http://touch.denofgeek.us/denofgeekus/#!/entry/possible-star-wars-episode-vii-plot-details-emerge,510acd6fd7fc7b5670108ef1 its apparent they plan to have mark hamill return to his role as luke skywalker (interestingly enough). Im skeptical, but ill wait and see.

http://m.nydailynews.com/1.1248419 and jj abrams is in fact directing 7. I feel some rays of hope shining down that this series may not be shite after all.