Timeline Change Date and FL Applications

[StormWolf]

Naturally, the timeline starts when I'm at a Saber Guild con event XD.

 

[Tsunami]

You also have to note that Sith arent going to coupe against you all at once as that will cause disaster. Some will be and should be fiercely loyal to their leader and willing to die for the Sith cause as his word is law and if they don't believe they can defeat him they're weak for turning their back on him.

On this note.

What is the site's view on inter faction powerbases. Do they have to be submitted as a faction? or can they just be role-played as part of the workings of the Sith Order.

For example the main Powerbase of the Sith will be the Supreme Leader, The Dark Lord and The Warlord + those who are loyal. However say that someone had a character who wasn't a fan, they team up with another two who agree, they gather support in what i would assume should be open threads, and conspire to bring down the Sith Order and replace its leadership.

Would the leadership hierarchy also be open to change. At the moment we have three people, could the person who assumes lead from the splinter group have more than 2 AFL's and spread the load more thinly. Thus opening the leader role to those of use who have less time to dedicate to running a whole faction?

 

[Talon maara]

On this note.

What is the site's view on inter faction powerbases. Do they have to be submitted as a faction? or can they just be role-played as part of the workings of the Sith Order.

For example the main Powerbase of the Sith will be the Supreme Leader, The Dark Lord and The Warlord + those who are loyal. However say that someone had a character who wasn't a fan, they team up with another two who agree, they gather support in what i would assume should be open threads, and conspire to bring down the Sith Order and replace its leadership.

Would the leadership hierarchy also be open to change. At the moment we have three people, could the person who assumes lead from the splinter group have more than 2 AFL's and spread the load more thinly. Thus opening the leader role to those of use who have less time to dedicate to running a whole faction?

Are asking like if three people teamed together and conspired against the sith leadership and tried to take it over by eliminating the top personel?

 

[Talon maara]

Or if they could break away and form their own faction

 

[Tsunami]

Are asking like if three people teamed together and conspired against the sith leadership and tried to take it over by eliminating the top personel?

Both Sides would have supporters. So it would like be two sides of the same faction that would fight to lead.

 

[Talon maara]

Both Sides would have supporters. So it would like be two sides of the same faction that would fight to lead.

So you mean two sith powers like lets say the sith order and the brothers of ziost trying to compete for dominance? Sorry im trying to grasp what your asking. I apologize my brains not working well today.

 

[Tsunami]

So you mean two sith powers like lets say the sith order and the brothers of ziost trying to compete for dominance? Sorry im trying to grasp what your asking. I apologize my brains not working well today.

Say there are 30 Sith/SBZ PC's. 15 of them follow the CURRENT leadership of the Supreme Leader, Dark Lord and Warlord.

That would leave 12 PC's who were not followers or loyal to the CURRENT leadership and would seek to usurp them.

So now there is a divide within the faction and both would fight for their right to lead the Sith. So my question is; are those who are not loyal still part of the Sith, or will they require submitting their group under another banner.

 

[Talon maara]

Say there are 30 Sith/SBZ PC's. 15 of them follow the CURRENT leadership of the Supreme Leader, Dark Lord and Warlord.

That would leave 12 PC's who were not followers or loyal to the CURRENT leadership and would seek to usurp them.

So now there is a divide within the faction and both would fight for their right to lead the Sith. So my question is; are those who are not loyal still part of the Sith, or will they require submitting their group under another banner.

I would assume their would have to be a resolve amongst them because technically they still are sith and would be under the supreme leader until they either failed or succeeded at the "mutiny" but it would really be up to @Green Ranger and the other admin

 

[Reya Starlyght]

I know this has nothing to do with the Sith, but how important is the Jedi Lord going to be in the entire Jedi Order? Above the council, or below it? Are they like the leader of the army or what? Because the 'Lord' title is kind of confusing.

 

[Eccles]

So my question is; are those who are not loyal still part of the Sith, or will they require submitting their group under another banner.

I think it'll count as infighting, so both groups will be part of the Sith.

 

[Talon maara]

Say there are 30 Sith/SBZ PC's. 15 of them follow the CURRENT leadership of the Supreme Leader, Dark Lord and Warlord.

That would leave 12 PC's who were not followers or loyal to the CURRENT leadership and would seek to usurp them.

So now there is a divide within the faction and both would fight for their right to lead the Sith. So my question is; are those who are not loyal still part of the Sith, or will they require submitting their group under another banner.

Because look at how they did it back in the day. When there was a mutiny it would be dooked out, and the winner would take power, and if any of the mutineers were still around they most likely be imprisoned, killed or exiled.

 

[Green Ranger]

In past, we've treated circumstances like those as internal disputes, so they'd be handled and organized within the faction.

 

[Tsunami]

I think it'll count as infighting, so both groups will be part of the Sith.

I thought so. In that case, could the usurpers use the Sith ships to fight the Sith? I mean, it would likely never come to that as i assume its more than likely that fights would be small skirmishes on a planets surface if anything.

 

[Talon maara]

I know this has nothing to do with the Sith, but how important is the Jedi Lord going to be in the entire Jedi Order? Above the council, or below it? Are they like the leader of the army or what? Because the 'Lord' title is kind of confusing.

From my understanding there is no pc council now. Someone correct me if im wrong. So he would be the one in control with his AFLs to help him.

 

[Reya Starlyght]

I know there's no PC council, but let's just look at it IC. How much power would the 'Lord' have?

 

[Marcus]

There is an NPC Jedi council that will not be used in RP at all. The Jedi Lord would in theory report to them, but he commands the Jedi - the Jedi Crusaders. The Jedi Lord, and his/her Generals, will command the all of the Jedi, which is pretty powerful. When it comes to finding and eliminating Sith, the Jedi Lord (and his/her Generals) will have quite a bit of control and power without the need for a political or inactive Council.

 

[Green Ranger]

Think of it this way: The Order as a body has more or less deferred control of all the major Jedi worlds to the Jedi Lord. So all the temples are now under the control of the new power structure, which has left the Council effectively powerless.

 

[Talon maara]

Think of it this way: The Order as a body has more or less deferred control of all the major Jedi worlds to the Jedi Lord. So all the temples are now under the control of the new power structure, which has left the Council effectively powerless.

With that being said, as character wise how powerful will the FL be as in lets say force and combat skills? I know theres no godly characters but the FL SEEMS LIKE HED/shed have to be up there a bit?

 

[Beta12]

I for one think the Colonies should remember their place.

Same.

I think something players need to understand about Faction Lead is that your character should be secondary to your faction. If youre a Sith Leader and lead the group well you'll be better remembered in the story and site than someone who is not.

I would no doubt love to RP a battle and at some point sacrifice my character to save a group at the expense of a great story and have done it. In the first Timeline the Sith sacked Coruscant and the Assistant FL and the FL were pursuing 2 council members and a Padawan that was a very good RPer, and had a talented character that no doubt would have lost a fight with the two. I had been working on my Jedi for almost a year and stopped the retreat to let them move forward to the hangar to escape and got slaughtered by the 2. After it was said and done both Sith were upset that I bought enough time for some titular characters to escape and the players of the Jedi were able to get off planet and restart a Jedi Temple offworld.

That being said don't shy away from playing your character, but be aware of what youre stepping into as well as preparing your character. A Force User in particular needs to rely on their senses, foresight, and lightsaber/Force abilities to guide them. This timeline will allow us to utilize Force Ghosts to my knowledge which brings a cool aspect to the RP Ive always felt it missed.

You also have to note that Sit
h arent going to coupe against you all at once as that will cause disaster. Some will be and should be fiercely loyal to their leader and willing to die for the Sith cause as his word is law and if they don't believe they can defeat him they're weak for turning their back on him. If you just attack arguably the most powerful character in the galaxy expect consequences if and when you fail. Striking him in the back while youre in battle may get you the FL position but you'll make enemies as well. Now if hes hurt and you take the opportunity to cut him or her down then thats the true Sith way as they're showing weakness.

I dont think it will be a brood of sneak attacks, but it should be plotted and thought about by the stronger Sith members. It's a progression of power remember. Just because you get the mantle doesnt mean you suddenly get all of theirs.

I really enjoy the example you used at the beginning of your post. I think a vice that some people have on this site is that they care more about their character and the story they have planned out from the beginning than they do an actual dynamic story that can change at a moments notice. The real fun stories on here are ones in which even you don't know what could happen to your character, whether or not that thread might be the last one.

A lot of that thinking was fostered during this time line with the whole lack of people wanting their character to die or really have anything bad happen to them at all. Something the Staff seem intent to change around this timeline, which I am dully grateful for.

While people might be attached to the character and the story they are creating, it is important to remember that the character is a part of an RP forum. You can't and shouldn't have complete control over your characters own story, because you are making an even greater story in which your character is only a singular part of. I might be a bit bummed if I couldn't play a certain character anymore, but how hilariously fun would it be if my Senator was shamed from her position after a failed power grab and was then executed? There would be tons of drama, and I hope there would be tons of ripples that would extend to the people she has encountered during her story. My favorite kinds of threads are the threads when someone is reacting to the death of another PC, and how that follows them through their individual story.

So I guess to sum my rambling up, I really do enjoy that you are an advocate for people actually playing their characters, and not writing out a predestined plan.

Something people should follow to heart in a roleplay.

 

[Reya Starlyght]

Honestly the way the Jedi are they don't necessarily have to be that powerful concerning combat skills, they could be very intelligent or another strength.