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Can we update the posting order to include me please?
 

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Hey @Xorism. Wook fired only one shot at Kelly, then went for the push which would throw her second shot off. Plus, if she took two heavy shots to the chest, she'd be near death.
 

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@Clayton are you saying that you drew accurately on me, before I could fire even though you originally intended to negotiate, then fired once at Kelly before moving your gun before flicking out a quick force power all before Kelly could pull the trigger a second time?

I get that a level 3 is faster but surely you cant hit me with a force blast before I can flick my finger another time, in fact I would think I could shoot more tbh.
 

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@Clayton are you saying that you drew accurately on me, before I could fire even though you originally intended to negotiate, then fired once at Kelly before moving your gun before flicking out a quick force power all before Kelly could pull the trigger a second time?

I get that a level 3 is faster but surely you cant hit me with a force blast before I can flick my finger another time, in fact I would think I could shoot more tbh.

Oh gosh we already went over Wook's action economy and why people drawing on him changes things.

You have to factor in that Kelly would be getting shot with a pulse-wave bolt and burned in the middle of her shooting. That's not something that wouldn't affect her or cause her to flinch for a second. It's not something you need to edit, it was just an aside and probably how I'll treat her attack when it's my turn again, depending what everyone else does. My main concern was letting you know she's not getting shot twice so you don't accidentally kill Kelly :P
 

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@Clayton we did note that you chose 10 meters for that reason lol

Edit: made the edit to one hit on kelly
 

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@Cazar I'm going to need you to remove that //exit from your post. You're ten meters from my character and in the thick of fighting. You can attempt to run in your post, but you cannot simply 'nope' out of this thread. Especially considering you're taking actions before your attempt to leave.

EDIT: I'm also going to cast doubt on that alleyway. You stated in your opening post that you were marching ahead towards this building that we have all come out of. If anything, you're in the middle of the street. Please remove that as well.
 

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So, yeah. Like BN mentioned, that /exit thread is incredibly implausible. FTL was told he couldn't do an exit thread and he was across the room from a number of Jedi who spotted him in a crowded theater. You're much closer and at least one or two people can react to you running down a conveniently-located alley. Serena can try to run away, but there are people that can also try and stop her.

Two, I'm uncertain what this hit you initially reference. Is it the shot from Serena that Wook deflected? That's not really a hit then. So I'm wondering if I'm missing something there.

And three, you're all being thrown, not pushed along the ground like a linebacker on turf. You're not going to "brush" against the wall, you're going to hit it hard enough to knock you all around and drive the breath from you.
 
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My exit is an exit attempt and it can be interrupted. It's not being removed because it is an attempt to leave. If you would like to stop me from leaving during your large amount of actions and while being shot please do so in your post. ;)

Your post says the push isn't strong and is super wide and quick. It isn't going to send everyone toppling and unable to avoid it or counter it. I'm perfectly within my right to try to resist it and not be tossed like a rag doll.

The alleyway is perfectly fine for me to choose. No one said there were none. Your side had chosen to have doors for The Wook to enter combat next to you and the scene is a primitive town with us walking to a target. Then we are pushed towards a wall of a building. No reason there can't be an alleyway nearby.

To be honest I also want out of this thread because it has only been this way do the ooc deception earlier. It has not felt like a fun RP so much as someone tricking lower level characters into locking into pvp so they can get more killls under their belt. I wish the ruling had just closed the thread because everything was changed by that.
 

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@Cazar Remove the exit thread tag. Having it there means anyone posting after it locks it in.
 

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Can I edit to exit attempt? Or does it just have to be fully removed?
 

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Can I edit to exit attempt? Or does it just have to be fully removed?

Attempt is fine, but you may not have the '/exit' tag. As in no OOC tags at all in this post. You're simply nowhere near able to escape this thread at this point.
 

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My exit is an exit attempt and it can be interrupted. It's not being removed because it is an attempt to leave. If you would like to stop me from leaving during your large amount of actions and while being shot please do so in your post. ;)

Your post says the push isn't strong and is super wide and quick. It isn't going to send everyone toppling and unable to avoid it or counter it. I'm perfectly within my right to try to resist it and not be tossed like a rag doll.

The alleyway is perfectly fine for me to choose. No one said there were none. Your side had chosen to have doors for The Wook to enter combat next to you and the scene is a primitive town with us walking to a target. Then we are pushed towards a wall of a building. No reason there can't be an alleyway nearby.

To be honest I also want out of this thread because it has only been this way do the ooc deception earlier. It has not felt like a fun RP so much as someone tricking lower level characters into locking into pvp so they can get more killls under their belt. I wish the ruling had just closed the thread because everything was changed by that.

You do need to remove the "//exit" because that signals you are now out of the thread, not attempting to leave. /exit is reserved for when you are officially gone and there's no way to stop you from doing it.

I also suggest the Republic people read my posts more carefully, as wild misinterpretation of clearly-written things seems to be a continuous problem with your team. I clearly state they'd be sent flying. At level 3, if Wook took the effort to do so, he could throw all three of them with enough force to break bones or even kill them. Getting the wind knocked out of them is a pretty reasonable toning down to fit the circumstances.
 

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I read your post just fine. Your attack intent was to send people flying with a wide cone attack. There is no possible defense or resisting this attack? You can't write your attack as perfect and indefendible. Serena resists being ragdolled and is pushed back a few meters but lands on her feet while colliding with the wall.
 

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To be honest I also want out of this thread because it has only been this way do the ooc deception earlier. It has not felt like a fun RP so much as someone tricking lower level characters into locking into pvp so they can get more killls under their belt. I wish the ruling had just closed the thread because everything was changed by that.

I'm sorry you're not having fun, but the PvP tag is for people who enjoy PvP. That said, as I stated before, it was not my intention to deceive you. I was not aware that what I said was being interpreted as giving you a gameplan and dedicating myself to your side instead of just me being nice and trying to offer advice. After all, I had initially joined the thread with the intention of being your opposition.

That said, I AM on Clayton's side and I AM trying to kill your character. To be perfectly clear.
 

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I'm sorry you're not having fun, but the PvP tag is for people who enjoy PvP. That said, as I stated before, it was not my intention to deceive you. I was not aware that what I said was being interpreted as giving you a gameplan and dedicating myself to your side instead of just me being nice and trying to offer advice. After all, I had initially joined the thread with the intention of being your opposition.

That said, I AM on Clayton's side and I AM trying to kill your character. To be perfectly clear.

I enjoy pvp but I don't enjoy being tricked into closing my thread and being outgunned and bullied by higher levels. You can't even come close to claiming I don't enjoy pvp considering how much I do here. So please don't patronise me like that. You very clearly said you would stay on my side oocly too unless the tide turned so don't act like you said you were always going to be an enemy which is clearly the case now as you say.
 

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I read your post just fine. Your attack intent was to send people flying with a wide cone attack. There is no possible defense or resisting this attack? You can't write your attack as perfect and indefendible. Serena resists being ragdolled and is pushed back a few meters but lands on her feet while colliding with the wall.

No, you didn't. That is not what you wrote. That's not what I wrote. I wrote broad yet strong. Not "not strong". You wrote her as if she was just being skidded along the pavement to a stop before barely touching the wall, when they're actually being thrown hard into it, not pushed lightly along the pavement. Without being force-sensitive, I'm not sure how she'd resist being rag-dolled in the first place. It's strong enough to send them flying, but not almighty enough to kill them.
 

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No, you didn't. That is not what you wrote. That's not what I wrote. I wrote broad yet strong. Not "not strong". You wrote her as if she was just being skidded along the pavement to a stop before barely touching the wall, when they're actually being thrown hard into it, not pushed lightly along the pavement. Without being force-sensitive, I'm not sure how she'd resist being rag-dolled in the first place. It's strong enough to send them flying, but not almighty enough to kill them.

Pvp rules say you can't make an attack that can't be defended and you can't use the force against non force sensitives if they could not possibly defend against it. So what you're saying is I have zero way to mitigate this and just have to take being hit and wind knocked out of me?
 
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