Breaking Heads OOC

[Clayton]

Pvp rules say you can't make an attack that can't be defended and you can't use the force against non force sensitives if they could not possibly defend against it. So what you're saying is I have zero way to mitigate this and just have to take being hit and wind knocked out of me?

It's more of a level issue at this point. Almost any force power can be defended against by trying to disrupt the attacker's focus, trying to evade, or through tech somehow. Unfortunately, at level 3, Wook is able to defend while simultaneously attacking with the force. The situation and attacks that could be sent his way just weren't enough to break his focus or force him to react to a greater threat. The situation just prevents an effective response more than their lack of force-sensitivity. I brought that up because I was reading your post as she's somehow vaguely resisting being sent flying entirely, which from your explanation is a wrong interpretation.

 

[Black Noise]

I enjoy pvp but I don't enjoy being tricked into closing my thread and being outgunned and bullied by higher levels. You can't even come close to claiming I don't enjoy pvp considering how much I do here. So please don't patronise me like that. You very clearly said you would stay on my side oocly too unless the tide turned so don't act like you said you were always going to be an enemy which is clearly the case now as you say.

I'm sorry you're not having fun buddy.

 

[Cazar]

It's more of a level issue at this point. Almost any force power can be defended against by trying to disrupt the attacker's focus, trying to evade, or through tech somehow. Unfortunately, at level 3, Wook is able to defend while simultaneously attacking with the force. The situation and attacks that could be sent his way just weren't enough to break his focus or force him to react to a greater threat. The situation just prevents an effective response more than their lack of force-sensitivity. I brought that up because I was reading your post as she's somehow vaguely resisting being sent flying entirely, which from your explanation is a wrong interpretation.

I can edit to say I hit the wall and got up right away to run. Is that going to be enough?

 

[Clayton]

I can edit to say I hit the wall and got up right away to run. Is that going to be enough?

Yeah, that's fine. I was thrown off (harhar) by how you worded it. I suppose how Serena hit the wall could also have an effect.

One last question though, and sorry if you already answered it, but can you clarify that hit you talk about?

 

[Cazar]

Yeah, that's fine. I was thrown off (harhar) by how you worded it. I suppose how Serena hit the wall could also have an effect.

One last question though, and sorry if you already answered it, but can you clarify that hit you talk about?

The Hit? If you mean the first bit I was just referring to Kelly hitting you. Made some edits to clarify and adjust to being thrown differently.

 

[Xorism]

@Nor'baal

 

[Cazar]

@Black Noise

You're not crossing 40 meters of distance to hit me by going back in time during the turn you were ruled to sit out. Please edit.

 

[Black Noise]

@Black Noise

You're not crossing 40 meters of distance to hit me by going back in time during the turn you were ruled to sit out. Please edit.

I'm not sure where you're getting that distance number from. The only markers of distance I see are Kelly stating she got pushed twenty meters, which is not in relation to your character, and when I stated as being 8 meters away from you before the Wook did his push.

 

[Cazar]

We were all pushed. So we all went about 20 meters, so maybe it's 30 but it's still you saying you initiate during the push which is during the turn you were ruled to be out. You are NOT going to cross that and reach me before I finish being pushed or even close to that. You also ignore the smoke screen that would be covering us. You guys can't argue us being all close together then say we're not close together when it becomes convenient for you.

 

[Black Noise]

We were all pushed. So we all went about 20 meters, so maybe it's 30 but it's still you saying you initiate during the push which is during the turn you were ruled to be out. You are NOT going to cross that and reach me before I finish being pushed or even close to that. You also ignore the smoke screen that would be covering us. You guys can't argue us being all close together then say we're not close together when it becomes convenient for you.

If you didn't write distance, then it's not there, friend. That's how PVP works. Xorism's character, Kelly, is thrown back 20 meters, not you. To assume based on Xor's post that you're also moving that distance is adjusting your post for convencience.

While Odin's smokescreen is a viable option, smokescreens don't immediately expand outward to cover all vision. It would take a second, not to mention that Nora is attacking the moment the senator makes contact with the wall. The smokescreen would not have expanded by that point to completely obscure your vision and mine. Though, even if an admin were to disagree with me on that, I can simply add in that I see you through the Force. Nora is a trained force user, she doesn't need to 'see' perfectly with her eyes to attack a target.

 

[Cazar]

If you didn't write distance, then it's not there, friend. That's how PVP works. Xorism's character, Kelly, is thrown back 20 meters, not you. To assume based on Xor's post that you're also moving that distance is adjusting your post for convencience.

While Odin's smokescreen is a viable option, smokescreens don't immediately expand outward to cover all vision. It would take a second, not to mention that Nora is attacking the moment the senator makes contact with the wall. The smokescreen would not have expanded by that point to completely obscure your vision and mine. Though, even if an admin were to disagree with me on that, I can simply add in that I see you through the Force. Nora is a trained force user, she doesn't need to 'see' perfectly with her eyes to attack a target.

We were all thrown back and hit the same wall, same distance. I'm not budging on that at all, it's clear and I'm not being bullied into somehow hitting a wall much closer to you while standing next to someone who hit the wall 20 meters away.

You also have yet to acknowledge my main point that you're going against the earlier ruling by saying you follow the force push during the last turn. You followed a wave of energy and began your attack by posting back in time. You spent last turn moving away from us while the Wook did his Force Push. You don't get to suddenly be charging and being inside that force push.

Please edit, I don't want to have to go to reports.

 

[Black Noise]

We were all thrown back and hit the same wall, same distance. I'm not budging on that at all, it's clear and I'm not being bullied into somehow hitting a wall much closer to you while standing next to someone who hit the wall 20 meters away.

You also have yet to acknowledge my main point that you're going against the earlier ruling by saying you follow the force push during the last turn. You followed a wave of energy and began your attack by posting back in time. You spent last turn moving away from us while the Wook did his Force Push. You don't get to suddenly be charging and being inside that force push.

Please edit, I don't want to have to go to reports.

Alright. In the spirit of cooperation, I have edited.

 

[Cazar]

... Your edit is the exact same post but this time you're using 2 force powers to make up for the distance at the same time which isn't possible at level 2. It isn't exactly better.

 

[Black Noise]

... Your edit is the exact same post but this time you're using 2 force powers to make up for the distance at the same time which isn't possible at level 2. It isn't exactly better.

If we cannot come to an agreement about this then it may, unfortunately, be best to go to reports.

 

[Xorism]

Depending on positioning Nora could potentially be hit by the Wook's force push too no?

 

[Black Noise]

Depending on positioning Nora could potentially be hit by the Wook's force push too no?

I don't believe so. Nora was standing 8 meters away from Serana and, according to edits, I've come in to attack after the force push hits her.

 

[Clayton]

Yeah, the post in question has been reported, so we'll have to wait for the ruling on whether the post stands.

 

[Xorism]

I'm actually annoyed because I want to see @Clayton s next post

 

[Cpt.Jack_Geary]

So if the Senators attempt to flee is hindered, then my post becomes trash too... so what shall I do now?

 

[Xorism]

So if the Senators attempt to flee is hindered, then my post becomes trash too... so what shall I do now?

Just wait, an Admin will decide our fate!