Swearing

[Nor'baal]

We British folk have a veritable library of swear words.

 

[Butler]

You don't like hyperbole?

It literally makes me want to squash a gazillion pb&js.

 

[Empress]

I grew up in a royal navy family, and Im gael

I have a very very colourful selection of words to choose from

 

[Padmé]

Well, now we're getting somewhere....

I know several Christians who swear like a sailor. That's not the point I'm getting at here.

So far I've got two solid reasons why folks swear.

Also, Prospero is correct about me/swearing. I do it when I'm extremely irritated, but I try to refrain from doing so. As for my job, it's a definite zero tolerance policy.

.... sort of indicative of the weird and calcified social rules we have about swearing.

Actually, elaborate. I'm really interested as I think you've hit a good point. Obviously words do have meaning, and knowing your audience factors in, but go on...


EDIT: GABA, that's just gnarly!

EDIT EDIT: Adena, I expec

 

[Dóiteán]

I'm part Irish(a very small part) and a Texan but I curse when pissed or frustrated though I refrain from swearing on here.

 

[Kaeb]

Language shouldn't be restricted, words only have power because we give them power blah blah blah....I've made this speech before.

If you perceive something as being offensive, much of the time it is only offensive because you have perceived it as so, not because it is.

I adore language, it's why I write (avoid writing) essays about it at Uni. So the idea that I cannot say ******, ****** or ****, annoys me. They are just words. Words we are taught to believe are ''wrong'', and yet a lot of the time they are still used in private or simply in our minds. ESPECIALLY due to the fact, that the meanings of such words are often warped, or have changed over time.

Stepehen Fry once made a glorious little speech, one I don't intend to plagiarize or even quote directly, about the fact that the use of the word f uck as a swear word baffles him, and would baffle any potential alien visitors we could have to this planet. It's definition, is simply copulation, it is how we continue our species, it is beautiful and a thing we love doing and yet to say the word is offensive. And yet we use words like 'torture' in every day life to describe minor inconveniences like traffic or waiting lines. Despite the fact that torture is one of the most abhorrent things we do as a species.

My point is, what many of you may have been taught to believe about language is most likely wrong, and that you should question almost every aspect of your life in this weirdly warped mostly white patriarchy we live in here in Western Civilization.

Kaeb out.

 

[Padmé]

Kaeb, you can't leave yet!

Okay, so true story... My grandma (a proper lady, raised in the Church, never used a swear word etc etc) was playing ScrabbleTM​...Long story short, she wanted to win I can't blame her (her children are very competitive...) any who, she had four letters left, and it was towards the end of the game. So, what did she do? She put down her four letter word- which happens to be a swear word in a rather nonchalant sorta fashion. The sheer reaction from the family was hilarious.

I say that to reiterate that most folks I know shy away from swearing. Now that doesn't mean those folks are better than others. I love studying human behavior etc etc.

So, go on folks.

 

[Empress]

also more on the use of " f *** " why I also think its funny its taken on such a life- many languages never had " and still don't " have a work for sex- f ***" IS the word closest to it - they basically mean the same yes? just one word is much much much older than the other

though it is annoying when it becomes everyother word, same with " like" and " um" or " y'know"

 

[Kaeb]

I vote we remove the censorship of f uck on this site, for the very reasons we're discussing.

 

[Jax Vos]

HEY GUYS. STAHP. STAHP BEING MEAN.

We're picking on Padme because she ****ing loves it and gives as good as she gets. And I happen to know that she enjoys a swear-word in her time or two.

I won't say you're white-knighting because I think your intent is sincere if adorably misguided (*pinches your nose* aren't you chivalrous?) and sort of indicative of the weird and calcified social rules we have about swearing.

Only you could make me feel better and make my eye twitch in irritation at the same time Prosp.

 

[Master Maverick]

I, personally, choose not to swear except during a certain time... >.>

Although, I would like to make the distinction between cursing and swearing. And these are my own personal definitions.
Cursing is more the intent of the word being used. So with that, you could call someone a "window" and mean it to be demeaning/humiliating/etc. Kind of like you wish harm on someone, that I'd consider a curse. Or that you curse the ground for tripping you (because it clearly wasn't your fault ^.^ ).
Swearing would be the words that have been listed/we associate with this line of thinking.
Not sure if I'm making sense... >.>

Given that, I curse all the time. "Crap" is my staple (which I don't consider a swear).

Anyway, I don't swear because I got my mouth washed out with soap a couple times when I was a child and just... learned not to do it I guess. That and I simply don't like the way they sound (rather arbitrary, I know). There's a rather extensive English vocabulary out there and I prefer to use other words because, honestly, they just sound better to me. :/
However, I don't care if people swear. Though I'd rather it be tasteful, of course. Not like what Adena described - using it like one would use "um" like those people that say "um" all the time. Drives me crazy. Really it just makes them sound more stupid (than if they were to just say "um"). Again, my opinion...

 

[Kaeb]

People who haven't taken the time to judge/question their own upbringing weird me out.

 

[BLADE]

Only you could make me feel better and make my eye twitch in irritation at the same time Prosp.

I'm the Dorothy Parker of this site. But with better tits.

 

[Kaeb]

I'm the Dorothy Parker of this site. But with better tits.

I was literally reading her work three hours ago, that's some freaky shit right thurr.

 

[Padmé]

Anyway, I don't swear because I got my mouth washed out with soap a couple times when I was a child and just... learned not to do it I guess.

You too? I came close to it!

People who haven't taken the time to judge/question their own upbringing weird me out.

It's not necessarily 'questioning' per se. How could one really know otherwise if the way they were raised is the only normal they know of? Sure, they can question, but it'll still be through the lens they were raised up with. If that makes sense.

As for ' f uck' being uncensored, I think it's up to B. Rhea. It would bug me to see that word everywhere on the forum, but hey, it's life. AMRITE?

 

[Kaeb]

You too? I came close to it!



It's not necessarily 'questioning' per se. How could one really know otherwise if the way they were raised is the only normal they know of? Sure, they can question, but it'll still be through the lens they were raised up with. If that makes sense.

As for ' f uck' being uncensored, I think it's up to B. Rhea. It would bug me to see that word everywhere on the forum, but hey, it's life. AMRITE?

But do you see my point in that it's your perception of the word f uck that is the problem, and not the word itself? It literally means baby making. If we were to use more ''morally correct'' language, torture and rape would be censored whenever used outside of their actual context. Like ''that end boss raped me'', ''waiting in that line was torture''. And yet, ''I ****ing love rainbows''...is censored. Our language is warped and weird.

If you could explain that first part a little better I'd appreciate it.

 

[Mistress]

It's just easier to swear than it is to describe feeling like this...

http://youtu.be/S-XBPkCTyuU

 

[BLADE]

If **** is still censored, I move that it be replaced with 'sexual healing.'

 

[Padmé]

But do you see my point in that it's your perception of the word f uck that is the problem, and not the word itself? It literally means baby making. If we were to use more ''morally correct'' language, torture and rape would be censored whenever used outside of their actual context. Like ''that end boss raped me'', ''waiting in that line was torture''. And yet, ''I ****ing love rainbows''...is censored. Our language is warped and weird.

If you could explain that first part a little better I'd appreciate it.

I'll use my life as an example (hush Prospero >.< don't you use this against me! )
Any who, I was raised in a home where swearing was not allowed. We just didn't swear.... My folks led by example. I don't think I've ever heard a swear word uttered by my mom- nor my dad, now that I think about it.

My high school years were a huge eye opener for me because that's when I was sent to a public school...Now affectionately dubbed my tumultuous years.

Long story short, because I was raised with different values/world views, I knew and felt different from the other students- yaddi yadda. (Gosh, I'm really bearing my soul here). Though I was not encouraged to ask questions, I did it anyway. My mom always thought I was a difficult child because of that. lol. I got in trouble (at the beginning). Eventually, my folks saw my true intent, and thus realized I was not challenging their authority, but was merely seeking clarification on 'why.'

I didn't so much 'question' my folks because the values they instilled in me made sense (still does) to me. In addition, I view said values as protection in a way. Said values made me more cognizant of others. Being polite- which is a biggie- and where my no swearing at others really comes from. Respecting others feelings/opinions. Treating folks right, yaddi yadda.

Some of my IRL folks I know were not encouraged to ask questions. Either that or (unlike me) they didn't want to get in trouble for asking. I feel as though folks these days simply want to 'question' things simply to challenge authority.

 

[Kaeb]

I'll use my life as an example (hush Prospero >.< don't you use this against me! )
Any who, I was raised in a home where swearing was not allowed. We just didn't swear.... My folks led by example. I don't think I've ever heard a swear word uttered by my mom- nor my dad, now that I think about it.

My high school years were a huge eye opener for me because that's when I was sent to a public school...Now affectionately dubbed my tumultuous years.

Long story short, because I was raised with different values/world views, I knew and felt different from the other students- yaddi yadda. (Gosh, I'm really bearing my soul here). Though I was not encouraged to ask questions, I did it anyway. My mom always thought I was a difficult child because of that. lol. I got in trouble (at the beginning). Eventually, my folks saw my true intent, and thus realized I was not challenging their authority, but was merely seeking clarification on 'why.'

I didn't so much 'question' my folks because the values they instilled in me made sense (still does) to me. In addition, I view said values as protection in a way. Said values made me more cognizant of others. Being polite- which is a biggie- and where my no swearing at others really comes from. Respecting others feelings/opinions. Treating folks right, yaddi yadda.

Some of my IRL folks I know were not encouraged to ask questions. Either that or (unlike me) they didn't want to get in trouble for asking. I feel as though folks these days simply want to 'question' things simply to challenge authority.

Of course it made sense and continues to, they were your parents.

But in my experience, questioning everything leads to rewarding results, especially when it comes to your own foundations. When I encounter people in Ireland who have literally never been confronted on their religious faith, I never cease to be surprised by their reactions, it's as if I've told them their parents are not real, because it's something they've been conditioned to believe since birth.

So if you, Maverick and others are really responding to this topic with responses to the effect of ''My parents told me not to'', I don't really see those as worthy answers to the topic. I don't care about what your parents would want you to say, I care about what YOU actually think about it.

Parents should be facilitators after all, not indoctrinators.