The Battle of Zigoola OOC

[Wit]

Didn't mean to come across like that, Wit, just putting out my opinion. I'll admit you make a good point, though.

I am Wit, making good points is unfortunately my curse.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

This isn't a ruling on the contents of Silver's post, because no one involved in the thread has objected to the contents of it yet. However, on the fact that the post actually happened, Silver waited a week, per the rules. Sisk has been online in the last week, including about 11 hours ago. If there was something going on where Sisk needed more time to post, then there was ample time to post that.

So the fact that Clayton posted is not objectionable.

 

[TAC]

Just as a point of clarification...

We had an implied order which we have been following throughout the thread. I posted four days ago, making it Sisk's turn. Is it a week from Silver's post, or a week from when he was expected to post? I could of waited a week and then Sisk would already be at his time limit.

i think the order was broken when I went missing for a week or two earlier in the thread, but I am curious in general, even if it doesnt apply here...

 

[Rom]

I believe in regards to 1v1 combat in a multi person thread(as opposed to a group battle or naval battle for example) the rule on posting switches from any implied post order to the duelers. In my experience it's always been 7 days from your opponents post, otherwise a sudden disappearance of one person in the posting order can grind entire battles to a halt.

 

[Sisk_Renelo]

Jesus. I come in from an 80 hour work week where I haven't even had a chance to reply to pms and find this.

 

[Dmitri]

Did someone let him know he was up to post?

 

[VVVVVV]

Clayton did, Weiss. Twice.

 

[Dmitri]

Alright. Wanted to make sure. Thanks.

 

[Sisk_Renelo]

I haven't had a chance to even check my notifications. With the recent changes around the city of Albuquerque involving all of our services things have been nuts. I literally got to post one line 4 days ago and then off to another accident.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

I haven't had a chance to even check my notifications. With the recent changes around the city of Albuquerque involving all of our services things have been nuts. I literally got to post one line 4 days ago and then off to another accident.

Be that as it may, I will reiterate what I just said to you over PM. Since you brought your objections here as well, I think that's fair:

Silver contacted you about this, as seen on your visitor wall. This was done in accordance with combat rules. You were also online multiple times over the last week, including 2:30pm EST yesterday. If you have time to go online then it stands to reason you can also spare a few minutes to post, telling us what your situation is and that you won't be able to post anytime soon.

Because a week went by, then, in accordance with the rules, Silver posted. The fact that he was allowed to post isn't going to be disputed. You'll need to react to his post, whatever the IC consequences may be.

 

[Oreus]

Being late doesn't seem like a good excuse to god-mode.. though I can understand the frustration you might have.

 

[Sisk_Renelo]

Oh, you mean like the godmodding of him determining the damage to my character? Not once has he just started a move and allowed me to RP out the consequences. It's always been in definite terms.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Oh, you mean like the godmodding of him determining the damage to my character? Not once has he just started a move and allowed me to RP out the consequences. It's always been in definite terms.

v

G. If a player disappears during a duel, they are to be nudged to post after 2-3 days. If there is no reply by one week's time, and the player has no explanation for absence, that player forfeits the battle/the last attack connects.

We're not going to debate this.

 

[Mistress]

Kinda resembles the disallowed "and he shot his oponant in the head" to me. It seemed like the previous post went far into claiming a specific outcome and just kept going. I personally don't prefer to move so far, but to know when to stop to allow my oponant the option for evasion, as is fair. (However the rest of us are more into the story telling aspect rather than pvp in this thread... <.< hopefully!)

Time has passed, I cannot argue that. But godmoding has certainly been ongoing.

 

[Sisk_Renelo]

And if you want to talk godmodding, lets look at the last post shall we?

holding him in a vice-grip so strong, the man's legs snapped together and his arms were pinned to his sides. With another twist of his power, Rook sent the Mandalorian flying high into the air before slamming him violently back into the ground spraying stone dust and glop everywhere with the force of the impact. Rook repeated the process again and again, the armored human powerless in his grasp.

Doesn't really seem fair that i'm not even allowed to try and resist this, does it? Seems like something that shouldn't be allowed becasue he takes away any opportunity for a defense. And then I come up with a defense, using the Force to create a cushion. But no, that can't be allowed.

Rook turned Sisk around so he wasn't facing Rook and consolidated his power around the only parts that truly mattered: Sisk's torso and arms. He could kick and look around wildly as much as he wanted, but raising a gun again was out of the question. With a twist of the force, Rook sent him hurtling headfirst at the ceiling like a human guided missile, he made sure to put enough speed and power into it that even if Sisk tried to shield himself again, his neck would snap upon contact with the ceiling.

Seems like saying that nothing I do is going to be effective would normally be considered godmodding, don't you think? Taking away any chance of defense and basically going "tjhis is an auto win" is considered godmodding.

Now lets go to the rules.

B. Any attack must be able to be countered unless you have approached the end of a duel. You cannot simply walk into a thread and kill someone instantly or destroy a shipyard with a single shot or launch fifty missiles at an enemy ship during their own wedding. Everyone should be given the chance to defend themselves after every move. Whether or not they are able to think of a defense is up to their own imagination.
B.2. You may not post things such as “and he shot his opponent in the head” because that gives your opponent virtually no chance of survival and you would be controlling another character. The best way to say something like this is to say that “he shot towards his opponents head”, as that gives the opponent a chance to dodge it.

Every single attack that has been thrown at Sisk with the exception of the first one has broken this rule. It's always auto-hit, never misses, and then takes away any chance at defense. Even when a defense is put together, like the buffer being thrown out, He just waves his hand away and says "No, you can't do that." That breaks both a. and b. of this rule. i'll provide some more examples.

Those dark threads that spread across Zigoola like an inky spiderweb, visible only to those sensitive are what Rook snared to augment his own power as he suddenly clenched his hand into a fist as he grabbed Sisk's glasteel visor with the full weight of his augmented power to shatter it inwards. Unless Sisk could come up with a defense, splintered daggers would lance in to pierce Sisk's eyes and surrounding flesh. If Sisk did not have utter control over even his involuntary reflexes, he might even inhale some of those splinters.

I'm not even allowed to try to block that.

With a savage twist of his will, the Wookiee grabbed the would-be Mandalore bodily with the Force, holding him in a vice-grip so strong, the man's legs snapped together and his arms were pinned to his sides. With another twist of his power, Rook sent the Mandalorian flying high into the air before slamming him violently back into the ground spraying stone dust and glop everywhere with the force of the impact. Rook repeated the process again and again, the armored human powerless in his grasp.

Once again breaking the rules. Determining what happens to Sisk (I.E. Godmodding) and not allowing him a chance to counter.

The grenades were far enough away that they provided only a mild annoyance. His grip did slip, but not fully. He took advantage of Sisk hitting the ground harder than he would expect. Rook turned Sisk around so he wasn't facing Rook and consolidated his power around the only parts that truly mattered: Sisk's torso and arms. He could kick and look around wildly as much as he wanted, but raising a gun again was out of the question. With a twist of the force, Rook sent him hurtling headfirst at the ceiling like a human guided missile, he made sure to put enough speed and power into it that even if Sisk tried to shield himself again, his neck would snap upon contact with the ceiling. Even then after that contact he continued slamming Sisk between ceiling and floor. The only thought that crossed his mind besides beating Sisk into non-existence was puny Mandalore.

So now he gets to pick and choose what portions of defense happens? If his grip slips, it slips. It's not an automatic "Well I can just redo it immediately in no time and break more rules doing it becasue I'm determingin what happnes to a character and controlling his character.". But that's how it was allowed to be played.

Meanwhile, none of Sisk's stuff is allowed to be used at all. Every time I've tried to write something, it's been handwoven away just because. Every time I've allowed the ending to be ambiguous, as keeping with the rules, I have to deal with definite article after definite article and not even allowed to protest, which I have done, but then have been basically been told "sucks to be you".

 

[Brandon Rhea]

If you wanted to object to previous posts, then you should've done that earlier. Too late for that now.

We're not debating this. There's been an objection to your most recent post, and we'll review that objection. But we're not going backwards at this point. You left for a week without telling anyone (again), and that's on you.

 

[Sisk_Renelo]

I have raised objections to his previous posts. I have the Skype logs to prove it.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

I don't care if you have Skype logs. Skype is a secondary resource, not a primary one. If you wanted to object to the post, you should have actually reported the post - on the site, using the Report Post function.

 

[Green Ranger]

Okay, ruling on Sisk's last post is pretty plain and simple. You weren't around, that turn is a pass, so you don't get to come in an retroactively act to minimize the damage from that round. Sisk takes full damage from the first grip/slam into the ceiling and ground. Based on Clayton's post, I'd read Sisk as having massive head trauma, shattered legs, and also prone on the ground. If you want to try and use one weapon, that's feasible as a desperate last resort, but Sisk's in a bad way so he's not exactly in a condition to be firing multiple weapons or really aiming with any real accuracy.

 

[TAC]

Should we wait for him to edit before we continue to post?