Fifth Timeline: Characters

[Rom]

Tyler Corrigan! ACTION GEOLOGIST!!!

Don't **** with his core samples...

*dumps acid onto the samples and runs away*

 

[Will]

*dumps acid onto the samples and runs away*

ALL your future characters are in for a world of hurt!!!

 

[George Beardsly]

I can see Rom making a Padawan and you have a Jedi Master come running out of nowhere during the training thread to punch him in the face and run off laughing maniacally.

 

[Malon]

In all the EU material that has come out, the NJO treat all the Sith that came after ROTJ as true Sith, not pretenders. Jacen was called a Sith by Luke Skywalker himself, as were the lost tribe of the Sith. Decades later the One Sith were also treated as Sith, not pretenders. No matter how you might feel about the Legacy era books and comics, they are canon material. If the NJO treated those Sith as Sith and not pretenders why would their views change? I know that this timeline is set centuries later and a lot can change in that time but I think there should be a reason why this change in their perception of the Sith took place. If the son of the Chosen one himself treated subsequent Sith as true Sith and not impostors why would later generations of Jedi change their views?

This group in particular are True Sith and would make the prophecy of the Chosen One particularly untrue. Since these Sith were direct descendants of Sith that served under Naga Sadow in 5,000 BBY, that would make them "true" Sith, and since they survived well after the fall of Darth Vader and even Jacen Solo, then the Prophecy of the Chosen One could not have been completed.

Regardless, this is something that needs to be told to the think tank and then allow them to decide, since so many people have different views about it.

 

[Wit]

This group in particular are True Sith and would make the prophecy of the Chosen One particularly untrue. Since these Sith were direct descendants of Sith that served under Naga Sadow in 5,000 BBY, that would make them "true" Sith, and since they survived well after the fall of Darth Vader and even Jacen Solo, then the Prophecy of the Chosen One could not have been completed.

Regardless, this is something that needs to be told to the think tank and then allow them to decide, since so many people have different views about it.

I had always thought that the prophecy said that the chosen one would bring would bring balance to the Force and the Jedi interpreted it to mean that he would destroy the Sith. Now after reading the wiki page again I am not so sure. Regardless this is definitely something the think tank should touch upon.

On the up side this just gave me an idea for a sith character.

 

[Lavi]

I personally think of "balance of the Force" in the sense of yin and yang; total order is not balance, but neither is total chaos. But that's just me.

 

[Dmitri]

I had always thought that the prophecy said that the chosen one would bring would bring balance to the Force and the Jedi interpreted it to mean that he would destroy the Sith. Now after reading the wiki page again I am not so sure. Regardless this is definitely something the think tank should touch upon.

On the up side this just gave me an idea for a sith character.

And outside George Lucas's OOC comment, there's no canon proof that Anakin was the Chosen One. The Jedi were dubious if Anakin was indeed the Chosen One. He just became a 'candidate' for the Chosen One. From the looks of things, Lucas wanted the end of the Sith, but other authors wantered otherwise, thus making Lucas' claim null and void, though in his top canon rank, it would be correct. In all, Lucas continues to confuse Star Wars by trying to control the Expanded Universe solely under his view instead of allowing others to do as they please.

 

[Jake]

And outside George Lucas's OOC comment, there's no canon proof that Anakin was the Chosen One. The Jedi were dubious if Anakin was indeed the Chosen One. He just became a 'candidate' for the Chosen One. From the looks of things, Lucas wanted the end of the Sith, but other authors wantered otherwise, thus making Lucas' claim null and void, though in his top canon rank, it would be correct. In all, Lucas continues to confuse Star Wars by trying to control the Expanded Universe solely under his view instead of allowing others to do as they please.

What? GL has almost nothing to do with the EU. A lot of people here probably know more about Star Wars than he does.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

In all the EU material that has come out, the NJO treat all the Sith that came after ROTJ as true Sith, not pretenders. Jacen was called a Sith by Luke Skywalker himself, as were the lost tribe of the Sith. Decades later the One Sith were also treated as Sith, not pretenders. No matter how you might feel about the Legacy era books and comics, they are canon material. If the NJO treated those Sith as Sith and not pretenders why would their views change? I know that this timeline is set centuries later and a lot can change in that time but I think there should be a reason why this change in their perception of the Sith took place. If the son of the Chosen one himself treated subsequent Sith as true Sith and not impostors why would later generations of Jedi change their views?

Of course there's going to be a reason. The problem that's arising over discussions like this is that people are trying to answer questions that haven't been answered yet.

This group in particular are True Sith and would make the prophecy of the Chosen One particularly untrue. Since these Sith were direct descendants of Sith that served under Naga Sadow in 5,000 BBY, that would make them "true" Sith, and since they survived well after the fall of Darth Vader and even Jacen Solo, then the Prophecy of the Chosen One could not have been completed.

What?

No one ever said that these are True Sith. They were influenced by Sith teachings from before Bane and Palpatine, but that doesn't make them direct descendants of Naga Sadow's Sith.

Please don't give answers like this when no one has decided on such things.

And outside George Lucas's OOC comment, there's no canon proof that Anakin was the Chosen One. The Jedi were dubious if Anakin was indeed the Chosen One. He just became a 'candidate' for the Chosen One. From the looks of things, Lucas wanted the end of the Sith, but other authors wantered otherwise, thus making Lucas' claim null and void, though in his top canon rank, it would be correct. In all, Lucas continues to confuse Star Wars by trying to control the Expanded Universe solely under his view instead of allowing others to do as they please.

Lucas doesn't control the EU, he ignores it. His vision is what he works on, i.e. the movies and The Clone Wars, and the rest of it is fairly irrelevant to him. He lets all those authors do as they please, but he also makes it 100% crystal clear that he's not going to do something in his own work just because the EU says something.

 

[Lavi]

Lucas described his work in relation to the EU as two universes. The first, is just his works with nothing modified. The second, is his works with the EU attached to it. GL has no reason to elbow into the EU-established canon because he only deals with what he works on: his own universe.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Lucas described his work in relation to the EU as two universes. The first, is just his works with nothing modified. The second, is his works with the EU attached to it. GL has no reason to elbow into the EU-established canon because he only deals with what he works on: his own universe.

Indeed, well said.

 

[Ser Gregor]

What?

No one ever said that these are True Sith. They were influenced by Sith teachings from before Bane and Palpatine, but that doesn't make them direct descendants of Naga Sadow's Sith.

Please don't give answers like this when no one has decided on such things.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lost_Tribe_of_Sith

lern2StarWars Bac :CHappy

 

[Malon]

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lost_Tribe_of_Sith

lern2StarWars Bac :CHappy

This. I read the Lost Tribe of the Sith series. They were actual members of Naga Sadow's Sith and their descendants carried on those teachings and way of life well after the Battle of Yavin. 43 ABY is when they revealed themselves again.

 

[Kaeb]

The Sith sure do hide a lot.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

I can barely see that bolded "lost tribe of the Sith" part on my screen, so considering the rest of the post was in reference to the Sith in our upcoming timeline, I assumed that's what Malon was referring to.

 

[Veritas et Lux]

im pissed actually.. i wanna keep misha :/ but i guess what ill do is ill make someone that's alot like misha. (personality-wise a carbon copy) and ill say that shes a pureblooded descendant of Misha Ivanovna the humble jedi hero of the second hutt war x) anyways idk im still thinking of ideas for her... the interests will be the same. clothes fashion etc. she may be a bit different concerning backstory that's all im trying to think out. plus ill leave misha in the backstory and i'll leave a surprise as to who her lover was or something.

my sith im just going to have to edit ilya... im keeping the same names.. so bite me

edit: actually. same names might not happen...

 

[Malon]

I can barely see that bolded "lost tribe of the Sith" part on my screen, so considering the rest of the post was in reference to the Sith in our upcoming timeline, I assumed that's what Malon was referring to.

Oh, sorry for the confusion. I should have probably deleted everything other than the relevant information I was referring to. But yeah, I was referring solely to the Lost Tribe of the Sith.

 

[Jake]

It's really beginning to bother me that's saying "Oh I'll just make a carbon copy of <x character>" and "I'll just continue <x family line>".

People have said it already: we're moving 14000 years into the future. Maybe a select few families could have somehow preserved their lineage over that length of time, but if everyone just renames their characters and plays with the same family name, what is the point of moving into a new timeline? We're supposed to make new characters to play with and explore new situations, not do more of the same in a new setting with fancier gadgets and such.

I mean, if you're new and couldn't use your characters, that's one thing, but I've seen tons of people say they'll be making carbon copies of so and so or continuing some random family line that has no significance except that their character was in it, unlike the Bac and Winters families that at least had multiple players using the name (not to mention everything the Bacs accomplished).

 

[Veritas et Lux]

:CStern hey.. dont judge me... i have had problems with my character... its been about a year and misha's still "technically" a padawan... i wanna rp with my character now leave me alone. not my fault my computer is broken...
and i'm making a new character. personality will be the same however name and backstory and motive will not...

bite me :CScool

 

[Ols]

It's really beginning to bother me that's saying "Oh I'll just make a carbon copy of <x character>" and "I'll just continue <x family line>".

People have said it already: we're moving 14000 years into the future. Maybe a select few families could have somehow preserved their lineage over that length of time, but if everyone just renames their characters and plays with the same family name, what is the point of moving into a new timeline? We're supposed to make new characters to play with and explore new situations, not do more of the same in a new setting with fancier gadgets and such.

You shouldn't let it get to you. At the end of the day, RPing is about having fun and having too many rules and regs can really impact upon that. If someone wants an identi-char then that's their perogative, just as it is their perogative to name their char what they like. As I've said, I find it unrealistic and won't be doing it (although I like the idea of one or two of my new characters being descended from those I have now, even if the name didn't survive), but if someone wants to I struggle to see how it's detrimental to the RP.

I mean, if you're new and couldn't use your characters, that's one thing, but I've seen tons of people say they'll be making carbon copies of so and so or continuing some random family line that has no significance except that their character was in it, unlike the Bac and Winters families that at least had multiple players using the name (not to mention everything the Bacs accomplished).

See, I disagree with that because you're promoting the (erroneous) idea that significance really matters for this kind of thing...either you think it's justified or you don't, I think it's rather unfair to suggest it's alright for some characters because they've been more involved in the main story progression of the RP.