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they make heavy use of the city in the plot utilizing well known landmarks.

Because everyone can relate to that. They see the Empire State Building and Lady Liberty get damaged some way then it's not only the buildings, but what they symbolize as part of the United States and Americans. When those things are damaged then we all are citizens somehow are attacked.

As for Cloverfield and I Am Legend I can see the monster being there because its a port city and all that activity would attract its attention. Will Smith's character lived in New York City and he knew the town well so for survival sake he stuck with what he knew and with the population density he could manage to find survivors.

In alien attack movies I always assumed it was implied that while they showed New York or any other major city getting attacked was due to the aliens actually doing reconnaissance pre-invasion. While it isn't ever stated it certainly can be assumed.

As for Loki attacking New York he could have those reasons Brandon made or to fit in with his prideful character if he can take New York where so many of Marvel's characters reside then that would be the ultimate show of power.
 

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Because everyone can relate to that. They see the Empire State Building and Lady Liberty get damaged some way then it's not only the buildings, but what they symbolize as part of the United States and Americans. When those things are damaged then we all are citizens somehow are attacked.

As for Cloverfield and I Am Legend I can see the monster being there because its a port city and all that activity would attract its attention. Will Smith's character lived in New York City and he knew the town well so for survival sake he stuck with what he knew and with the population density he could manage to find survivors.

In alien attack movies I always assumed it was implied that while they showed New York or any other major city getting attacked was due to the aliens actually doing reconnaissance pre-invasion. While it isn't ever stated it certainly can be assumed.

As for Loki attacking New York he could have those reasons Brandon made or to fit in with his prideful character if he can take New York where so many of Marvel's characters reside then that would be the ultimate show of power.

There is a fundamental difference in writing, especially in a screenplay between writing a story/character/scene/line of dialogue that is inherintly relatable on a human level through emotional connection or just shoving recognizable landmarks in your face to get a reaction from you before they subject you to an hour and a half of Roland Emmerich inspired destruction porn.

I've said Brandon brought up some good reasons to do it, but those reasons are NEVER used. Not once. And I seriously doubt they will be this time. If Loki turns around and says ''I'm an enormously powerful and tortured Norse God, i'm here to destroy your economy and the United Nations. MWAHAHAHAHA'' then i'll walk out of the theatre. I don't want a saturday morning cartoon villain or a third rate cop show villain, I want a theatrical, dark, flawed and relatable villain like he was in Thor.

I'm not saying the film is going to shit as a result of that, I'm saying it worries me. I've said before, with the current rate of information and marketing, the film is walking a fine line between being potentially a ****ing amazing movie or a horrendous mess.
 

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I really want this to be good. I really do.


PS: Where the hell is the Justice League movie they promised us?!
 

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I really want this to be good. I really do.


PS: Where the hell is the Justice League movie they promised us?!

If DC do a JL movie, it would probably be animated. DC are far better at animated films.
 

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As do I. I'm just waiting to be impressed. The Amazing Spiderman trailer thoroughly impressed me. The best trailer of all time in my opinion is the original trailer for Alien from Ridley Scott. I still get chills.

Chris Evans looking like a male model in a halloween costume = Bad.

Thor's laugh and new digs = Good.

The two scientists Bruce Banner and Tony Stark sharing a scene together to introduce the new Hulk = Good. Although I wish it was still Edward Norton, he's fantastic at playing dark characters.

Shots of New York getting destroyed = Bad.

Loki being approached by Soldiers as he awakens in a dimly lit room = Badass.
 

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One last grip I have about the Capt. America costume - Capt. America had an armoured costume in the comics and shows. The one in the trailer doesn't even look armoured, just looks like regular clothing. Mental retard fail on costume designers' part, eh?
 

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One last grip I have about the Capt. America costume - Capt. America had an armoured costume in the comics and shows. The one in the trailer doesn't even look armoured, just looks like regular clothing. Mental retard fail on costume designers' part, eh?

It may well be an undersuit. Armour may be overlaid as Cap prepares for battle.
 

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Yeah, I'm not honestly sure why they didn't stick with the aesthetic of the design they already had in his own film?

It was obviously inspired by traditional american military garb at the time with a heavy concentration on fighter pilot fittings but with the red white and blue colours. Why didn't they just update that but with a modern soldier aesthetic like those pictures and videos you see of soldiers in Iraq?

I'd love that. Not....this.

It may well be an undersuit. Armour may be overlaid as Cap prepares for battle.

No he's wearing it in the battle scenes as well.
 

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I feel like this movie will have major fail moments and ideas in it. Hope everything else makes up for it. ><
 

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We finally have a trailer.

Aliens attacking New York City....how innovative. And a song from Nine Inch Nails is in the trailer...like EVERY ****ING movie trailer that's come out of hollywood in the last ten years.

Still there are some cool bits.

I saw no aliens...
Saw Loki

But no aliens...

I may be mistaken, seeing as I have read NONE of the comics and my understanding of all things Marvel does not extend farther than the movies.
 

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I feel like this movie will have major fail moments and ideas in it. Hope everything else makes up for it. ><

Scarlett Johansson prancing around in a skin tight body suit makes up for it :bitchez
 

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I've said Brandon brought up some good reasons to do it, but those reasons are NEVER used. Not once. And I seriously doubt they will be this time. If Loki turns around and says ''I'm an enormously powerful and tortured Norse God, i'm here to destroy your economy and the United Nations. MWAHAHAHAHA'' then i'll walk out of the theatre. I don't want a saturday morning cartoon villain or a third rate cop show villain, I want a theatrical, dark, flawed and relatable villain like he was in Thor.

I don't think he'd say something like that, but the rationale still makes sense. Destroying the economy and the United Nations wouldn't make him a cartoon villain or a third rate cop show villain, it would make him smart and cunning.

Loki was a theatrical, dark, flawed, and relatable villain in Thor, but he was also smart and cunning. He had a smart, strategic plan.
 

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I don't think he'd say something like that, but the rationale still makes sense. Destroying the economy and the United Nations wouldn't make him a cartoon villain or a third rate cop show villain, it would make him smart and cunning.

Loki was a theatrical, dark, flawed, and relatable villain in Thor, but he was also smart and cunning. He had a smart, strategic plan.
I've just realised you and I are both essentially right but we're arguing over a difference of opinion. I wuv you bacsy, ssoowwwy.

On another note:

Original.
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New.
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How is this better???????
 

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I like the flightsuit look better.
 

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I don't understand why they had to change the original? It would've been far cooler for him to enter a room with his old suit that symbolized hope for soldiers during the war and then donning his original attire to go defeat a stronger foe.

Not trading a detailed, multi-faceted flgiht suit with a bulky helmet, covered in straps and holdings for ammunition.

Now his helmet is a mask, he's wearing a onesie and his boots and gloves look like shiny snow-wear.

The original was nuanced and added to the character, the new one is too sleak and cheap looking and so it detracts from the character.
 
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